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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 June 06 11:07 BST (UK) »
hi bob, patrick joseph macnamee, born belfast 1885, was in australia in 1910, he no doubt arrived at sydney, his father was patrick and his mother was martha, but i think he gave his sister's name as his next of kin, which is suprising as his mother was still alive, margaret mcnamee later became margaret houston in 1912, he fathered two sons before he got married in 1916
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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 03 June 06 11:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Joe,
Is this lot any of your's


A Patrick R McNamee born: 1912/41364 (F) Patrick J (M) Margaret M at Chatswood. Sydney.

A Joseph J McNamee born: 1915/11583 (F) Patrick J (M) Margaret M at Ryde. Sydney.

Marriage of Patrick McNamee and Margaret
3687/1916  MCNAMEE  PATRICK J  BLACKSELL  MARGARET M  ST LEONARDS 


Service Record
Name MCNAMEE, PATRICK RICHARD 
Service Royal Australian Navy 
Service Number 20988 
Date of Birth 18 Oct 1912
Place of Birth TURRAMURRA, NSW 
Date of Enlistment 14 Jan 1936 
Locality on Enlistment Unknown 
Home Port/Port Division SYDNEY, NSW 
Next of Kin MYRTLE 
Date of Discharge 13 Jan 1948
Rank CH ERA 
Posting at Discharge HMAS Penguin 
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No 

Service Record
Name MCNAMEE, JOSEPH JAMES 
Service Australian Army 
Service Number NX29067 
Date of Birth 2 Jun 1915
Place of Birth NORTH RYDE, NSW 
Date of Enlistment 6 Jun 1940 
Locality on Enlistment TIGHES HILL, NSW 
Place of Enlistment PADDINGTON, NSW 
Next of Kin MCNAMEE, MARGARET 
Date of Discharge 20 Sep 1944
Rank Corporal 
Posting at Discharge 2/4 FIELD AMBULANCE 
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No 


This is your Patrick McNamee we are looking for as below
Title
McNamee Patrick Joseph : SERN 9766 : POB Belfast Ireland : POE Sydney NSW : NOK W McNamee Maggie
Series number
B2455 Control symbol
MCNAMEE P J Contents date range
circa 1914 - circa 1920
 
Access status
Not yet examined Location
Canberra Barcode
1957652<<<Reference inquiries only 1300 886 881 

 
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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 June 06 11:54 BST (UK) »
Hi joebhoy  :)

OzyBob is spot on, you should contact the National Archives of Australia and see if they can help you track down your arrivals.  They should be most helpful with the later arrival - the earlier one may be recorded in the State archives.  Try www.records.nsw.gov.au and contact their reference service for assistance.

They will definitely be recorded somewhere, especially as they arrived in the 20th century.

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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 03 June 06 12:05 BST (UK) »
yes bob, just as prue points out, your spot on there mate! as far as i am led to believe patrick joseph was in the aif, and went to india? during ww1, it's his arrival that's doing my nut in, his and peter's, there's seem to be easy access to corresponding matters regarding their live's in australia but it is difficult to get there arrival, a few people earlier on this board have tried for me their wonderful efforts returned the same as me, empty-handed, i seem to be looking at all the wrong places or get side-tracked when i enter most sites, no doubt those experierenced researchers can tell of my imaturity in genealogy, totally lost in australian records. peter mcnamee came over with children but how many? did he join the aif too? i deeply appreciate all the help i am having on this board, thank you.

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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 03 June 06 12:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Joe,
This is one of peter mcnamee childern i think.


Title
MCNAMEE ERNEST : Service Number - NX149680 : Date of birth - 24 Feb 1920 : Place of birth - BELFAST IRELAND : Place of enlistment - COWRA NSW : Next of Kin - MCNAMEE PETER
Series number
B883 Control symbol
NX149680 Contents date range
1939 - 1948
 
Access status
Not yet examined Location
Canberra Barcode
5638631 

this could be Ernest marriage to
 11662/1943  MCNAMEE  ERNEST  MASTERS  COLLEEN  NORTH SYDNEY 
this could be Ernest McNamee death
50116/1973  MCNAMEE  ERNEST  PETER  CATHERINE  ST LEONARDS 

 
WW1 Nominal Roll
Service Record
Name MCNAMEE, ERNEST 
Service Australian Army 
Service Number NX149680 (N436803) 
Date of Birth 24 Feb 1920
Place of Birth BELFAST, IRELAND 
Date of Enlistment 30 Oct 1942 
Locality on Enlistment ADAMSTOWN, NSW 
Place of Enlistment COWRA, NSW 
Next of Kin MCNAMEE, PETER 
Date of Discharge 2 Aug 1945
Rank Sapper 
Posting at Discharge 1 TRNG DEPOT 
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No 


Joe you might have to do the same as the other one we put write to them this is all I can fine on the name McNamee from Ireland for you ok Mate I know it is hard for some one from an nother country to do the search ok
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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 03 June 06 12:30 BST (UK) »
Hi again Joe  :)

What I meant by my post was that you should contact the archives (national and state), which you can do by email, for information about arrival documentation for your men.  The archives will hold the passenger lists, it's just a matter of whether they are in the national archives or the state ones. 

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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 03 June 06 17:32 BST (UK) »
right on the nose again bob, ernest mcnamee son of peter, well done, if you cannot find any other children born in ireland to peter that kinda opens up a new story!!! it means he arrived earlier to australia than i first thought, as with prue saying about the archives i am sure i was in there about 2 months ago and asked to be sent a copy, still waiting, also waiting for documents to be opened, 2 months now! don't know what i've done wrong?? is it a waiting game? i registered as a guest and tried to find their arrival but found nothing. regarding peter's family i will now have to search for their birth in australian records
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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 04 June 06 00:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Joe,
The archives (national, at least) don't have everything described and indexed online, so with reference enquiries the reference officer will have to search high and low for potentially relevant documents, and then go through them all to find out whether the info you want is in there.
Sometimes something is indexed online, but "not yet examined" - everything that is in the archives has to be examined by an access examiner, it's just a routine thing, and after they have examined it it is usually "open" and can be accessed by the public.
Unfortunately there are  limited numbers of staff who do this, and thousands of people like you and me who request stuff, so it can take a long time for your request to get seen to.
They will get there eventually!  :D
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Re: mcnamee brothers from ireland
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 04 June 06 17:02 BST (UK) »
i had no idea prue, that there was limited staff, i will keep my fingers crossed for another few months and try not to be so over enthusiastic
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