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1861 census look up please
« on: Friday 05 May 06 14:27 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Can anyone find a David Allen in the 1861 census.
Age around 5, area of Merthy Tydfil.

Many Thanks,

Colleen
DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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« Reply #1 on: Friday 05 May 06 14:39 BST (UK) »
Here you go

David Allen     4          Merthyr           Son
Daniel  #        36        Cork   Ireland   Head Ironmine burner
Catherine #   31         Kilkenny  #      Wife
Daniel       #   11         Merthyr           Son
John          #   6              #                   #
William       #   3              #                   #
Joseph      #   4mths       #                   #



RG9/4055  Folio 44  Page  39
Lowerf Merthyr Tydfil
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
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Re: 1861 census look up please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 05 May 06 14:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much, can you see them at all in the 1871 census?
DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 May 06 07:09 BST (UK) »
Yes here they are in 1871

David   Allen     14      Merthyr           Son   Lime works lab
Daniel    #        44      Ireland            Head  Lime Burner
Catherine Allen 42     Ireland            Wife
Alexander   #    7       Troedyshire     Son  Scholar
John   Allen      16       Merthyr            #   lime Works lab
Joseph  #        12or13     #                  #  Scholar
William   #       12             #                #   Haulier

RG10/5392  Folio 84  Page 21
Merthyr Tydfil
Lower Merthyr Tydfil

* * *

Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
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Census information is Crown Copyright from National Archives,gov.uk


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Re: 1861 census look up please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 May 06 08:12 BST (UK) »
Hiya,

I am really sorry but this isnt him.
I thought it was but the 1881 census shows hm with parents, but my David Allen married Mary Williams in 1880 and had a child David J Allen in 1881.
I am confused now

Colleen
DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 May 06 08:26 BST (UK) »
No worries Colleen I can have another look for you.
Annie
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 May 06 08:41 BST (UK) »
Yes I have him for 1881 with Mary

David Allen       24      Merthyr          Head   Coal Miner
Mary   #           30         #                Wife
David J. #         1      Ystradyfodwg Son
Martha George 6      Hirwain           Dau

Back of 21 Wengraig Rd

RG11/5306  Folio 103  Page 65
Pontypridd , Ystradyfodwg


Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
Currently renovating
Census information is Crown Copyright from National Archives,gov.uk

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 May 06 09:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that hun, is he on the 1871?...I cant seem to find him anywhere prior to 1881..they is a mystery going on,. cos on his birth cert, his father is down as Jenkin Thomas, deceased..but Davids surname is ALLEN.

DUR; Stephenson, Wray, Collier, Lowther,Rothery
GLA; Jones, Allen, Holland, Nicholas,George,Lewis
ESS; Davey
W.Yorks; Martin, Hodgson, Tyler,Harrold
LAN; Dodd, Constable, Brinkley
Guernsey; Le Riche

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 May 06 09:20 BST (UK) »
He could possibly be the one I found as a 14yo in Wales, going by his age in 1881 he would have been around 14yrs old in 1871. He's about the only one thats close enough age wise and being born in Merthyr.

Now I'm confused! A  possible scenario that does come to mind though-- pregnant with anothers child  - one Jenkin Thomas and David Allen has adopted him as his own?? Oh gosh I don't envy you on this one!
There are a lot of Mary Williams in Wales in 1871 do you have her parents names?
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
Currently renovating
Census information is Crown Copyright from National Archives,gov.uk