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Re: Brogdens Recuits to New Zealand - James Palmer
« Reply #18 on: Monday 19 July 21 10:58 BST (UK) »
That's brilliant, it allowed me to finally confirm what i had deduced, that my ancestor William Woodworth (after, Woodward) and his wife and baby son did indeed embark on the "Bebington" Sadly the baby died a month before they reached NZ. Now if I could just find decent info on the correct family of Woodworths back in the UK... ::)

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Re: Brogdens Recuits to New Zealand - James Palmer
« Reply #19 on: Monday 19 July 21 11:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Kiwiozbrit,

Very pleased that it helped :-)

The thesis is a veritable goldmine of information.

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Re: Brogdens Recuits to New Zealand - James Palmer
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 21 July 21 01:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you Spades. I appreciate you posting the article and its contact address. 
I had discovered that Toitu Otago Settlers Museum (Otago Early Settlers Museum) held the 1872 'Zealandia' voyage Medical Journal, and was able to see from its contents that my Gt Grandmother Dinah Palmer was recorded in it, thus confirming she was a passenger aboard it to New Zealand.  My assumptions since then are that James, Dinah and baby Jesse Palmer disembarked at Bluff from the Zealandia on 28 Dec 1872, James being a Brogden recruit as noted in Rollo Arnolds' book The Farthest Promised Land. 
I am grateful to Delwyn Blondell for allowing her thesis to be placed on line for the likes of myself and other genealogist to confirm / progress our family research. but it still leaves me wondering the source of her Brodgen 'Zealandia' passenger list.
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Re: Brogdens Recuits to New Zealand - James Palmer
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 21 July 21 12:01 BST (UK) »
I think the source is that medical journal. It is implied within the text of the thesis.

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Re: Brogdens Recuits to New Zealand - James Palmer
« Reply #22 on: Friday 23 July 21 05:58 BST (UK) »
Yes, see pages 21-22 of the thesis. The Zealandia's medical journal does not appear in the theses' bibliography.

And there is an error in the thesis: the Lady Jocelyn arrived at Lyttelton, not Bluff as stated in the list of vessels on page 47. Contemporary newspapers reports reveal that her Brogden-employed passengers were transferred down to Bluff, one of several movements to take groups to where the work was.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL