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1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« on: Monday 18 October 04 17:38 BST (UK) »
Dear All,

I've used the free Ancestry features to try to track down my most elusive g-grandfather, Henry BUTLER, in 1871.  I have four possible records, and would be most grateful if someone could check them for me.  I've ordered them in my best guess of most to least likely:

1. RG10/635, page 61, household schedule no. 332 (Bermondsey, London)
2. RG10/1306, page 9, household schedule no. 51 (Staines, London)
3. RG10/2131, page 34, housefold schedule no. 241 (Stoke Damerel, Devon)
4. RG10/564, page 26, household schedule no. 142 (Mile End Old Town, London)

The correct Henry should have the following characteristics:

Born: Chelsea, or possibly Westminster, Middlesex/London
Age: Between 23 and 29 (he was very inconsistent in later censuses!)
Occupation: Actor, Artist, or Comedian
Marital status: Married.

Many thanks for your assistance.

All the best

Tim
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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 October 04 20:14 BST (UK) »
Hi I have checked all the details given but no comedian or actor etc. do you have other details eg wife or children?
Thanks
Ruth
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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 October 04 20:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruth,

Thanks for your effort.  Henry's wife was Margaret, but I already have her in 1871 - alone in a boarding house  :'(

And their first son was born about 6 months later.

As both Margaret and Henry were actors (well, she was an actress if you're British, only an actor if you're American!), I theorize that Henry was off performing on census night somewhere too far to get back to his wife.  But that means he could be anywhere, and Ancestry has only a partial indexing, I believe.

Cheers

Tim
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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 October 04 20:42 BST (UK) »
Tim,

Sorry to cut in, but I am trying to locate a William Steven Butler b. 1820 ish, was possibly a Doctor as listed as ships surgeon on the Arab bound for New Zealand in 1841.

Have no knowledge of his life in UK, so just grapping at straws.

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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 October 04 00:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Adrian,

Well that's 2 of us grabbing at straws!  My Henry's a right pain!

Good luck with yours.

Cheers

Tim
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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 October 04 01:31 BST (UK) »
Tim

Do any of these look familiar - its a bad transcription, because Henry S butler is a girl (sister) !!!!

Trying to find the others for you

 
1871 England Census
Butler 
 
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 
 
Amelia Butler 20  Culham, Kent, England Daughter  St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey  London   
Eliza Butler 38  London City, Middlesex, England Wife  St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey  London   
Eliza M Butler 7  Illington, Middlesex, England Daughter  St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey  London   
Emerline Butler 9  Gray's Inn Rd, Middlesex, England Daughter  St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey  London   
Henry Butler 27  Chelsea, Middlesex, England Head  St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey  London - Occupation 'Caller' or 'Cutter' (not very clear)   
Henry S Butler 3  East Greenwich, Kent, England Sister  St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey  London 
 
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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 19 October 04 01:34 BST (UK) »
Tim

Here is the second in you list

 « Global Search Results 
 
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
 
Henry Butler 24  Staines, Middlesex, England Brother  Staines  Middlesex - Occupation Painter   
Sarah Butler 44  Gravesend, Kent, England Wife  Staines  Middlesex   
William Butler 39  Staines, Middlesex, England Head  Staines  Middlesex - Occupation, Inn Keeper

Here is the third in your list

Butler 
 
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Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
 
Henry Butler 24  Axbridge, Middlesex, England Head  Stoke Damerel  Devon - Occupation Private Soldier, 2nd Foot.
 
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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 October 04 01:37 BST (UK) »
Tim

And the last on your list

 
1871 England Census
 
Butler 
 
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 
 
Henry Butler 23  St Georges, Middlesex, England Lodger  Mile End Old Town  London - Occupation French Polisher   
Joseph Butler 21  St Georges, Middlesex, England Brother  Mile End Old Town  London - Occupation Porter 

If any of the four entries looks familiar from previous research, I will give you full reference details and a scan of the enumerators returns.

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Re: 1871 census: Henry BUTLER
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 October 04 10:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your efforts.

I don't think any of these look right .... though it had never occurred to me that my g-grandfather could have been a woman  ;D

Three problems have totally stumped me with Old 'Enry:

a) He has a very common name;
b) I have failed to locate his marriage certificate to Margaret, hence I don't know his father's name (see separate thread from a week or so ago in The Common Room); and
c) Because he was so inconsistent with his age on census returns ('81, '91', 01), I can't even narrow it down very much to a likely birth year.

After pondering over this for a looooooong time, I do have a particular birth record which I consider the most likely, but I haven't even ordered the certficate yet in case it sets me off - all excited - down a totally false line of research!

I guess I'm going to have to be patient until the '51 or '61 censuses are fully indexed.

Thanks again.

Tim
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