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Offline Sueh2

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Re: Mother with Illegitimate child - Who?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 15 May 06 18:22 BST (UK) »
Will, do you actually have George Thomas Holmes birth certificate?

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E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 May 06 18:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the info so far very interesting!!! I have the birth certificate which was sent to me today. It Doesn't actually have the fathers name on it but does clearly state he is a Holmes. It is a modern copy of the old one and states Sophias mark was an x. I'm assuming it therefore is quite possible that wrathman is wraithman as her name could have been interpreted by the registrer as this.

All this Info so far is definetly opening new doors.

Thanks so much

Will
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« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 May 06 18:47 BST (UK) »
I think that this is George Thomas in 1881

1881 Nafferton

William Jefferson          H  M  42   shoe maker          b Nafferton
Mary a Jefferson          W  M  43                               b Stockton
Sophia Smith                D  U   20                              b Middleborough
Thomas F Smith          GS        2mths                        b Nafferton
George Thomas Doy neph      7                                b Middlesborough

At first I wasn't convinced then I looked at the 1871 which ties together what we have so far

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E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 May 06 18:54 BST (UK) »
1871  Barin St Stockton

George Hill        H  32    roller              b Tharney, Cambs
Elizabeth Hill    W  30                          b Stockton
Emma Hill         D    12                        b Middlesborough
William Hill        S    10                        b     "
George Hill       S      7                        b     "
John J Hill         S    3 mths                  b Stockton
Sophia Smith  niece 10                      b Middlesborough

Not sure that it's all sorted yet but definitely food for thought as Sophia has a nephew William Hills aged 10 with her in 1871

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.


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« Reply #13 on: Monday 15 May 06 18:56 BST (UK) »
I found one more interesting thing on freeBMD
BIRTH
George Thomas H Doy        Dec 1873      Stockton    10a  88

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
E Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON.
Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME
Norfolk: TUCK
Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND.

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Re: Mother with Illegitimate child - Who?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 02 December 18 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi will

I no it has been many years since you were looking into this, but did you ever get to the bottom of it?

George Doy was my greatgrandad also and on researching the family tree myself i have hit the same wall you did back in 2006...very confusing! so if by chance you get this message any help would be really appreciated.

Thankyou.

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 02 December 18 12:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Beth     

Welcome to Rootschat!     

Are these the people who you mention?     
 Birth       1899  QJun Scarbro'  9d 408 George Alfred Doy ( mother's maiden name Burton )

(Source FREEBMD / GRO)     

Marriage 1899 QMar Scarbro'  9d 507 George Thomas Doy / Hannah Burton
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 December 18 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi...yes they are.

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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 02 December 18 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi     

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"You can’t give kindness away.  It keeps coming back". Mark Twain (?).