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Offline Kalishoek

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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 11:46 BST (UK) »
These are all the Raynes people born in Ireland from 1836 to 1907

Church Baptism    Raynes    Louisa    1836    Co. Donegal   
Civil Birth    Raynes    Mary    1876    Co. Galway   
Civil Birth    Raynes    William F    1907    Co. Antrim

These are the people who lived in Ireland from 1845 to 1865, all in Cork

Raynes    Andrew    Lough Lane    St. Finbars    Co. Cork   
Raynes    Andrew    Hargraves Quay    St. Annes Shandon    Co. Cork   
Raynes    Edward    Carrignagroghera/t/fermoy:barrack-Hill    Fermoy    Co. Cork   
 Raynes    James    Glanmire Road Lower (rockgrove Terrace)    St. Annes Shandon    Co. Cork   
Raynes    Mary    Leitrim Street    St. Annes Shandon    Co. Cork   

There is no birth record  for Henry Raynes  but there is a census record from 1865 :
Raines    Henry    Millerd's Street Cork    Cork St. Peters    Co. Cork


Also :
Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CORK - SOUTH PARISH
Baptism of WM JAMES GEORGE RAYNES of N/R on 24 May 1817

Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CORK - SOUTH PARISH Baptism of VALENTINE RAYNES of N/R on 20 November 1797
Father James Raynes, mother Margaret McCarthy

Area - CORK & ROSS (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - CORK - SS. PETER & PAUL
Baptism of CHRISTOPHER JOHN RAYNES of N/R on 25 December 1857
Father Patrick Raynes, mother Margaret Riordan
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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 11:51 BST (UK) »
These are all the Raynes people born in Ireland from 1836 to 1907

Church Baptism    Raynes    Louisa    1836    Co. Donegal   
Civil Birth    Raynes    Mary    1876    Co. Galway   
Civil Birth    Raynes    William F    1907    Co. Antrim

Civil registration of births started in 1864 and for earlier dates many church records will not have survived so this is unlikely to be a complete list.
Actually, if you put the surname Raynes into civil registration index you'll see lots more listed-
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 11:57 BST (UK) »
These are all the Raynes people born in Ireland from 1836 to 1907

Church Baptism    Raynes    Louisa    1836    Co. Donegal   
Civil Birth    Raynes    Mary    1876    Co. Galway   
Civil Birth    Raynes    William F    1907    Co. Antrim
......

In addition to the point made by aghadowey about the survival of records - I am assuming that search is carried out the the IFHF website, in which case it's not really all the people of that surname baptised in Ireland between those dates, as the IFHF does not include several counties - e.g. Wexford, Offaly, Carlow, Dublin City etc..


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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 13:48 BST (UK) »
Gosh it's been busy on here today!

I have to admit that I haven't looked at my Raynes/Ryall family for a while as I came to a bit of a brick wall so I'm feeling a bit confused/vague reading all this today!
JNBY - I don't know if we're related but it would be great if we were as you may be able to help sort it all out!

I know we are related to (although I'm not 100% sure how!) Henry Christopher Raynes - he was the captain of the steamship Upupa (Cork Steam-packet Company) before becoming Harbourmaster in May 1873. He died in Cork in 1877. He definitely had a sister named Elizabeth Raynes who was unmarried in 1877. I don't know when he was born, only that he had worked for the Cork steam-packet company since about 1855.

Our direct ancestor is John George who was born in Cork in 1822. Family stories say that he was born John George Raynes, but after a family dispute (to do with religion) he was disowned and changed his name to Ryall.
The first evidence I have of him is his marriage certificate in England in 1866 which states he is a widower. I also have him on the English census in 1871,1881,1891 & 1901 where he is listed as being born in Cork.

I also have (passed to me from older members of the family) a copy of a will dated 1812 written by Elizabeth Sullivan (widow of Francis Sullivan) who lived in Cork City. This has a witness statement on the end written by Teresa Raynes in 1826, wife of John Raynes, who lived at Lower Glanmire Road.

I'm not at all sure how any of these fit together and whether any of them fit with either Eliza or James!

Think I need to revisit all this, I'm feeling more muddled than ever!
Julie x

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Offline shanew147

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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 13:53 BST (UK) »
Jlo - do you know what religion your Raynes family were ?

The (free) website at www.irishgenealogy.ie has RC records for the west of the county and Cork city, but does not include the east of the county or Church of Ireland records at present.

you mentioned Harbourmaster.. which port was that ? (Cork city, Cobh/Queenstown etc...)



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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 14:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Shane

The simple answer to the religion question is I'm not sure! I think the family story is that the Raynes were RC and John George became CofI, but it might have been the other way round!! It is one of those 'handed down' stories that has lost a lot of detail/accuracy over the years!

Henry Christopher was 'Harbourmaster for the port and harbour of Cork' which I'm assuming means Cork City.

Thanks for the link, I shall go and have a look..

Julie
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Marshall, Beeson (Herts)
Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham)
Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex)
Poulton, Philbrick (Essex)
Guest, Timmins (Staffs)
Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham)
White (Bucks)
Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex)
Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada)

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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 14:35 BST (UK) »
Had a look at the link Shane and have now added to my collection of Raynes, although still not quite sure how/if they are connected! Very interesting site  :)

My guess (and it is a complete guess) is that John Raynes married Teresa Sullivan, they had at least 3 children - John George, Henry Christopher and Elizabeth....just got to prove/disprove it!
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Marshall, Beeson (Herts)
Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham)
Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex)
Poulton, Philbrick (Essex)
Guest, Timmins (Staffs)
Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham)
White (Bucks)
Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex)
Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada)

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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 08 September 10 14:50 BST (UK) »
There's some Raynes entries in Francis Guys Cork City & County Directory 1875/6 - see : link

If you search just for Raynes (see the frame to the top left of screen.), there are four results.

0468  Port of Cork (city) harbour & ballast master  Capt. Henry Raynes
0522  list of corp. off. - Water Bailiff Capt. Ranyes
0569  street listing for Capt. Henry Raiyes at 32 Middle Glanmire Rd
0688  (index)

see the Cork Resources section for this and other links that may help the search


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Offline JLo

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Re: Raynes of Cork
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 September 10 13:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks Shane

I'd had a look at that directory yesterday but hadn't spotted the search box! At least my assumption that it was Cork city was right.

Julie
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Marshall, Beeson (Herts)
Lo(e)wenthal,Kavanagh, Maxam (London, Birmingham)
Harrisson, Matthews (London, Essex)
Poulton, Philbrick (Essex)
Guest, Timmins (Staffs)
Raynes/Ryall (Ireland, Birmingham)
White (Bucks)
Gunn (Scotland, Lancs, Essex)
Ison (Tamworth, Birmingham, USA, Canada)