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Offline JAP

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Re: Help needed reading this please!
« Reply #9 on: Monday 22 May 06 04:04 BST (UK) »
Isn't that what Hack said?  (And he'd read the surname as BOW from the scan but the FreeBMD entry gave it as HOW.)

Anecestry has an Eliza Thompson Bennett marrying a Skinner How in the Sep quarter 1838.
Perhaps she crossed out the Eliza in recognition that she was now Mrs S[Skinner] How?  ... 

IGI has Skinner ROW married Eliza Thompson BENNETT, 8 Aug 1838, Saint Andrew by the Wardrobe, London.

IGI has Skinner ROW b 24 Jan, bap 1 Mar 1803, St James Garlickhithe London, parents William ROW and Ann.
The same church has to parents of those names a William in 1800 and an Ann in 1801.

FreeBMD has the death of Eliza Thompson ROW, age 64, Dec qtr 1874, Kensington, Vol 1a, page 77.

The widowed Skinner ROW is in London in the 1881 census on FamilySearch, a 78yo Fur Hide and Skin Broker with two servants.

FreeBMD has the death of a Skinner ROW, age 80, Jun qtr 1883, Kensington, Vol 1a, page 71.

So it looks as though the name is ROW (and note that the 'B' in BENNETT has a curl at the end of the letter and is separate from the following letter whereas the 'R' in ROW does not have a curl and is connected to the following letter). So it seems that it originally read 'Eliza J BENNETT' and then 'Eliza' was scored through and 'Mrs' written above, and the 'J' was overwritten with an 'S', making it Mrs S ROW.

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 May 06 06:31 BST (UK) »
Fur dealer! Skinner by name and by nature  ;)
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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« Reply #11 on: Monday 22 May 06 07:02 BST (UK) »
Fur dealer! Skinner by name and by nature  ;)

Lord Hack, were one in your time zone one would have to get up early both literally and metaphorically to beat that.

And  :'( , despite the fact that it's afternoon here, the connexion hadn't even occurred to me  :-[

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 22 May 06 08:42 BST (UK) »
Gosh...

Many, many thanks indeed Jap & Hackstaple!!

Much appreciated,
Cheers, Romilly.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 10:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Again,

Just one further thought...

I have searched (in vain) for any possible offspring for Eliza & Skinner Row. (If I can find a Benjamin Row, it would help to solve a mystery).

Hoping that someone will be able to help.

Cheers, Romilly.
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 11:23 BST (UK) »
Romilly,
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Do you have any more information about Benjamin ROW? Any snippets might help in the search ...

Incidentally, have you looked for (or requested a lookup for) Skinner ROW and Eliza and family in the 1841, 1851, 1861 censuses?

JAP
PS: I suppose the middle initial on the picture could well be a 'T' - it's certainly nothing like the 'J' in July.

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 12:01 BST (UK) »
In all of the censuses there is only Mr & Mrs Skinner Row and one [or two in 1881] servants. In '81 he had the long serving Caroline Tilt and another general servant.
There are many Row, Benajmin's about but none ever appear with those parents.
Do you have one of those as a verified ancestor?
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 12:56 BST (UK) »
Skinner and Eliza are at 6, Champion Place, Camberwell in 1861: he is 58, a fur and hide broker b London Middlesex; she is 51, "wife to the above", b Tottenham, Middlesex.  They have one servant but nobody else in the household. RG9/378 folio 141 p 24.

Anna.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 07 June 06 13:05 BST (UK) »
No, no sign of any children.  They're in Camberwell in 1841 (he transcribed as "Skenner Row") and 1851 ("Skinver Row"), 2 servants each time.  In 1851 his widowed sister Louisa Wix (42, b Greenwich) and her son Henry (6, b Putney) are with them.

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)