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Re: 1871/61 lookup please for VERT family
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 06:18 BST (UK) »
so this is their marriage then? Why wasn't Spohr shown as name in any other records I wonder?

I don't know for sure, but she is on the same page...

Have you found his birth, to see which name he was registered under?

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Re: 1871/61 lookup please for VERT family
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 07:48 BST (UK) »
Gosh, I love this name!!

Births June 1858
Spohr De Beriot Rosinni (that's how the GRO spells it - I bet that's where the Rosina in 1861 comes from) Green
Lambeth 1d 283 (I think - not 100% sure about the middle '8')

Tanja  :)

You've guessed it, Spohr was a musician 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Spohr
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Re: 1871/61 lookup please for VERT family
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 10:55 BST (UK) »
Tanja how do you do it..I had looked for birth for Hugo De Beriot Green, just De B Green..nothing!! How clever you are...
and of course Rossini ( Rosinni) the composer...Spohr's parents certainly had a mission in mind for him I think! 1851/61 census' show his brother as Viotti, seems also named after the musician..
Father Jabez must have had a dream..having gone from lamplighter to musician to gas fitter!!

I agree what a lovely name though. I will get on and order his birth and marriage certificates today...

I really can't thank you enough.. I do try but ... ::)

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WILLIAMS, LIverpool,Poole Dorset
BURCHEL,Liv
STEVENS,Liv
TAYLOR,TURNER,HOLMAN,GILES,ASHELFORD,CONYBEER,(Bridgwater,Somerset), BLAKE,( Clayhanger, Devon)
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Re: 1871/61 lookup please for VERT family
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 11:04 BST (UK) »
Not clever at all - just checking different possibilities  :P 

Wasn't Viotti a girl? (Not too sure now).
I'm not 100% sure of the 1841 census. Anyway, I couldn't see any Jabez Vert.

Let us know when you get De Beriot's certs. We might be able to find a marriage for his parents.

Tanja  :)
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Re: 1871/61 lookup please for VERT family
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 30 May 06 11:24 BST (UK) »
Ok will do, thanks     ;)....Viotti shown as 'son' in both..aged 11 in 1861..I'm sure that son Rosina has to be D B....


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WILLIAMS, LIverpool,Poole Dorset
BURCHEL,Liv
STEVENS,Liv
TAYLOR,TURNER,HOLMAN,GILES,ASHELFORD,CONYBEER,(Bridgwater,Somerset), BLAKE,( Clayhanger, Devon)
WENNBERG, Norway/Sweden

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Re: 1871/61 lookup please for VERT family
« Reply #23 on: Monday 10 December 18 00:05 GMT (UK) »
I'm first seeing this thread over 12 years after the original post, but came across it yesterday whilst researching this family because I know Deberiot's grandson - he is the 3rd generation (at least) of string players in the Green family!

I have found Deberiot through all the censuses from 1861 to 1911, and then traced him right up to his death in 1935 - he appears in most of the London electoral registers for the 1920s with his wife Annie and son Horace.

Deberiots' parents, Jabez Green and Eliza Vernon, were married on 28 Nov 1836 at St Mary's, Lambeth.

Janice

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I haven't yet seached through the GRO indexes to find details of births/deaths of any babies who didn't survive to be recorded in a census, but those I have noted to date are:
James Jabez Green 1840–1842
Jabez James Green 1842–
Emma Eliza Green 1845–
Viotti Green 1849–
Eliza (aka Lilly) Green 1853–
Amy Rosina 1854 -1854
Deberiot Spohr Rossini Green (violinist, leader/conductor of London's Gaiety Orchestra) 1858–1935
Phillimore - Wiltshire / London