birth record

[Tati]

Here's 1901
RG13/1452 81 7
Sudborough, Northamptonshire
2 Sudborough Lodge
Charles W Perkins, head, 70, Farmer, employer, b. Sudborough
Priscilla, wife, 54, b. Geddington
Alfred, son, s, 24, Farmer's son, b. Corby
Minnie E, dau, 21, b. do.
William, son, 19, Farmer's son, b. Sudborough
Louisa, dau, 17, b. do.
Percival, son, 14, Farmer's son, b. do. 

[Tati]

I'm puzzled by the fact that both Mary Ann and Priscilla were born in Geddington. Wonder whether they are really 2 different women. 

Several possibilities. Either Elizabeth wasn't born at census time in 1871. Or she was Priscilla's daughter before her marriage to Charles (edit: see below  ).  I'd love to trace her later to see whether she still gives Leicester as her bithplace.
Do you know who she married?

Charles obviouly isn't too definite about his age, but thanks his now known brother Joseph, I am able to trace him in 1861 and back to 1841 if you are interested. Seems his birth year was 1832/1833.

Tanja 
 

[Tati]

Doing a search on possible Priscillas (born Geddington ca. 1845), I come up with a Priscilla Slawson, and found this marriage:
Priscilla Slawson to possibly Charles Perkins
Market Harborough registration district
June quarter 1879
7a 57

(Am a bit puzzled by the fact that he's not Charles W however but I trust these are the ones).

Now tracing this Priscilla, what do I find? 
1871
RG10/3279 18 1
St Margaret, Leicester
In the household of John Sharpe, Carpenter:
Priscilla Slawson, lodger, single, 23, Shoe Fitter, b. Geddington Northamptonshire
Elizabeth Slawson, dau of lodger, 1, b. Leicester
   
I think this is the answer to your question, finally         
 
I have found a possible birth registration:
Elizabeth Ann Slawson, September quarter 1869, Uppingham, 7a 280 but there may be other possibles.
You can search the complete birth indexes here:
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8964&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0

Err ... You'd need to check the theory against proof of Priscilla's maiden name (one of the children's birth certs) of course.

[Tati]

Trying to put this all together, to see which child belongs to which mother.

Likely death for Mary Ann: September quarter 1876, Kettering, age 32, 3b 104.

Therefore Minnie E (The one birth I can see on FreeBMD is Minnie Ellen Perkins June quarter 1879 Kettering, Northamptonshire - which covers Corby ) must be Priscilla's daughter.

 

 

[cjas]

Wow thanks you have certainly dug up a lot of info.

According to family folklore mary Ann and Priscilla were sisters therefore it is very likely that they were born in Geddington.  Mary Ann died and then Charles married Priscilla. 

In our family history there never was a daughter mary Ann but according to the 1881 census there is one and that is what has set me off trying to find out who was really part of this family.
There were supposed to be 6 children from each marriage. 

1st mar. Charles, George, Elizabeth, Priscilla, Charlotte, Alfred.
2nd mar. Madeline, William, Minnie, Louisa, Florence, Percival.

In reseaching I have found birth records for Charles, Mary Ann, Priscilla, Charlotte, George, Alfred, and Minnie, William, Louisa, Forence, Percival.

Three is no record of a Madeline from the second marriage but we have a new Mary Ann from the 1st marriage.  I don;t know if there are the same person and we just have put them with the wrong marriage.  I will have to try and talk to some of the older relatives and see if they can remember.


You are very likely right about Elizabeth being Priscilla dau.  by 1881 she could have been living with Charles and Mary Ann as their daughter.

This would explain why there would be two sisters with the same name.

I will try and order the films for the Leicester area and check out who was born to who.

Thanks again so much for all you help.  I wish I could do something to help you.
cjas

[Tati]

You're very welcome. Help somebody else when you can  (without misleading them in the first place, if possible    )

Indeed Priscilla had a sister Mary Ann:

1851
HO107/1744 483 10
Geddington, Northamptonshire
West Street
George Slawson, head, 41, Baker,b. Brigstock
Elizabeth, wife, 41, b. Wollaston
John, son, 12, Labourer Farm, b. Brigstock
George, son, 11, ditto, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 8, scholar, b. do.
Mary A, dau, 6, scholar, b. Geddington
Priscilla, dau, 4, scholar, b. do.
Joseph, son, 1, b. do.

by 1861, George is a widower and there is another son, Thos B, age 9. Mary Ann is still at home but Priscilla is in service. All are at Brigstock.

[cjas]

You are so good at this!!!!!!!!!  You have helped enourmously!!!!!!!

Thanks again
Hope to talk again sometime

cjas

[Tati]

No prob. I hang around here quite often 

Would you like the census info for Charles with his parents and siblings?

[cjas]

Of course that would be great.  I feel bad making you do all this work but I would love all the info yo can find on this family.

Here is what I think I know

Parents:  Joseph and Elizabeth  Sudborough

Children:
Elizabeth
John Thomas
Louisa
Joseph
charles
Charlotte
mary Ann
Robert
But I'm not sure of the order or if all these children are Josephs and Elizabeth
I will be looking forward to your reply
cjas