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Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« on: Sunday 09 July 06 04:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
I am looking for information about Edward Hannell.

 I believe Edward was born around 1791 from the 1851 census.

I have checked the IGI and there is  apossibility he was born to Edward Hannell and Mary, however the one entry I thought could have been him(born to Edward and a Mary Fensham) had his burial date well before I found my Edward Hannell, so am wondering whether there was another Edward Hannell who married a Mary.

Could anyone please check for me 1. this birth
                                                        2. any marriage between Edward Hannell and Mary?

Thanking you very much
Lyn
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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 July 06 17:21 BST (UK) »
Lyn,

I don't have the Woburn Parish Registers available, but I did extract all the Hannell entries from them some years ago.

I did not find a burial for Edward Hannell in Woburn.  I notice that the IGI entries are user submissions and give a date of burial of 13 Feb 1803.  My notes give a burial on that date for Mary, wife of Edward Hannell.

It looks to me as though the IGI entries are in error.
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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 July 06 11:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Steven

Thanks for that detail. AT least that date is now clarified for me.
Now I will have to look elsewhere for Edwards Death and marriage details.

In appreciation
Lyn
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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 July 06 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Steven

Could I  impose upon your time again please to see whether you have any details on the marriage of an Edward Hannell and Mary please ? This could have been prior to 1791.

hoping this is not too much to ask.

With thanks
Lyn
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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 July 06 12:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Lyn

There is an Edward Hannel on the 1841 census living in Hockcliffe (about 4 miles from Woburn) He is an agricultural labourer aged 50 and his wife is Mary aged 55. Though remember the 1841 census only rounded up/down ages so they may not be completely accurate.
 There is an IGI entry for Edward born to Edward and Mary 2 March 1791 - this would be the same Edward and Mary who had a child Edward in 1790 who died. It was quite common to name the next child after the child who died - so Edwards mother would almost certainly have been Mary Fensham.

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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 July 06 12:35 BST (UK) »
Edward Hannell married Mary Fensham on 9 July 1784 at Woburn.
William born 7 July 1785
Edward born  2 March 1791
John born 6 August 1799

William and John and their families are on the 1841 census still living in Woburn

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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 July 06 12:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gerc

Thank you for that.

Looks like I  need to follow up with some research on the Fensham families now.

I have noticed on the IGI a THomas Hannell born to Edward and Maria, so am assuming either there is another Edward Hannell or he remarried.  Will check dates out further.

Anyway thankyou for your help.
Regards
Lyn
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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 July 06 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Gerc and Steven

I have just realized that there must have been at least 2, maybe 3 Edward Hannells who married Marys, as the path that led me to Woburn in the first place was actuallly seeing Edward in 1851(although by now he was a widower).It was in the 1851 census that said he was 60 and born in Woburn. Hence I went to Woburn next. He was also listed in Marylebone in 1841 too.

Getting confusing to say the least.

So therefore it cant be the same family in Hockcliffe in 1841. Now I dont know what,s what.

Will think it over some more.
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Lyn
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Re: Woburn PRs please for Edward Hannell and Mary?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 July 06 13:36 BST (UK) »
Lyn,

Remember that all the Bedfordshire baptism and marriage registers pre-1813 are on the IGI.  If you can't find a baptism or marriage on the IGI, you won't find it in the registers.

An Edward Hannell married Mary Stevens at Hockliffe in 1808 and they'd had two children by 1812.  This does.t seem to be your Edward.

There are basically two Woburn Hannell families.  Michael Hannell married Mary Barnwell in 1772, and Edward Hannell married Mary Fensham in 1784.  The only obvious candidate for Michael Hannell was baptised at Hockliffe in 1739 to John and Dorothy Hannell.  The most obvious candidate for Edward was baptised in 1748 at Hockliffe to John and Dorothy Hannell, so I would think it likely that these Woburn Hannells were brothers from Hockliffe.

I notice that the IGI has two children baptised to an Edward and Mary Hannell in Marylebone in 1816 and 1823
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