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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 22 April 09 19:56 BST (UK) »
That fitsx nicely with the archaeological evidence.
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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 03 September 09 09:44 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any idea of what these markings would mean ?
CLAYTON (LANARKSHIRE (craignuek)& ENGLAND)
DEVLIN (LANARKSHIRE(newmain & craignuek) & IRELAND)
McANAW (craignuek, muirkirk LANARKSHIRE)
McALEER (LANARKSHIRE & IRELAND)
MARSHALL (DUMFRIES)
KEENAN (IRELAND)
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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 03 September 09 17:50 BST (UK) »
Not the meaning or significance, but they seem to be reminescent of Egyptian hieroglyphs. Where is the stone located please?
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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 03 September 09 18:35 BST (UK) »
hi
the stone is in st cuthberts in kirkcudbright it is the stone of william marshall who died in 1792
it seems to be two crossed spoons and rams horns but not sure why
 
CLAYTON (LANARKSHIRE (craignuek)& ENGLAND)
DEVLIN (LANARKSHIRE(newmain & craignuek) & IRELAND)
McANAW (craignuek, muirkirk LANARKSHIRE)
McALEER (LANARKSHIRE & IRELAND)
MARSHALL (DUMFRIES)
KEENAN (IRELAND)
MCGINNIS
HUGHES
PROUDFOOT
DUNBAR
McGEECHAN (craignuek & carfin)
KILTIE
TROTTER
KEEGAN
ADAMS


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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 03 September 09 19:24 BST (UK) »
Cracked it: See Scottish Gypsies under the Stewarts by David MacRitchie. Apparently William Marshall was b1670, and dNov 1792, which made him over 120 years old. I am very surprised that thre is not more information given on such a character, but Googling William Marshall Kirkcudbright gave this information, and a lot more, too much to reproduce here. So fascinating I might even buy the book, and I lived over 40 years in Yorkshire!!
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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 03 September 09 19:36 BST (UK) »
hi red

yes there is more information on the front of the stone this is from the back
i have have traced my family line back to william marshall and went to see the stone after reading all the stories of him.
and i was curious to find out what they where as he seems to have been quite a character. when you go to the stone the top of it is covered in coins that people leave for luck.


CLAYTON (LANARKSHIRE (craignuek)& ENGLAND)
DEVLIN (LANARKSHIRE(newmain & craignuek) & IRELAND)
McANAW (craignuek, muirkirk LANARKSHIRE)
McALEER (LANARKSHIRE & IRELAND)
MARSHALL (DUMFRIES)
KEENAN (IRELAND)
MCGINNIS
HUGHES
PROUDFOOT
DUNBAR
McGEECHAN (craignuek & carfin)
KILTIE
TROTTER
KEEGAN
ADAMS

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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #42 on: Friday 04 September 09 09:52 BST (UK) »
I too thought they were 2 crossed spoons and rams horns, I know in the past people have had things on their stones to represent their occupations such as building tools, maybe he was a shepherd or a cook ?

this was my first thought but I have found that actually the rams horns represent the religion so i think he was jewish

Jews
There are also a large number of east-Bohemian asymmetrical stele (so-called rams horns) – the upper edge of the gravestone is shaped into an asymmetrical ...
www.hlinsko.cz/english/tourist-info/chrudim-hlinsko.../jews

V7
On gravestones, one can also find the image of a shofar, ram's horn trumpet, (referring to the person who blew the shofar at the various religious ...
www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Rozalimas/chapter5/.../V7.htm


pass on the spoons though.
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Re: Spooky Gravestone Markings
« Reply #43 on: Friday 04 September 09 19:29 BST (UK) »
This is interesting, a possible Jewish gypsy. Sets me wondering from something connected to another line that I am researching. Does anyone know whether this actually happened? My first impression of the memorial (see post 2 above) was that it was possibly Egyptian, or Masonic symbolism.
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