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CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« on: Thursday 03 August 06 10:49 BST (UK) »
Hi, Everyone,
Further to my enquiries on another Cambs thread, I now have a marriage certificate for a John Johnson and an Elizabeth CARTER in Melbourn in 1862.  Would it be possible for someone to look up this CARTER family in Melbourn in the 1861 Census.  The only details of the family I have are:
Elizabeth CARTER, aged 32 (sighted later as having been born in Maidstone, Kent), and her father Robert CARTER, described as "gentleman" on the certificate.
Very many thanks,
keith

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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 August 06 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith

I can't find a Robert Carter born or living Melbourn old enough to be the father of Elizabeth except for one age 74 who is an Ag Lab and lodger.

Looking for Elizabeth I wonder if this could be her.

RG9/210 Folio 129 Page 10
15-16 Minions, St Botolph, Middlesex

Robert Carter 30, Upholster employing 4 m3n/2 boys, b Kent
Joseph Walter Carter 21, brother, Gentleman, b London
Susan Burton 24, Visitor, b Cambridgeshire
Elizabeth Carter 28, Sister, Lady, b Kent
Mary A Carter 24, Sister, Lady, b Kent

Will have a look at 1851 and see if I can find her with parents.

Regards ... Sheila
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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 August 06 11:29 BST (UK) »
Oops - Snap, Sheila  ;D

Hi Keith,

I can't see Eliza for now, but this should be her father:

1861
RG9/815 19 8
Melbourn, Cambridgeshire

Robert Carter, head, mar, 72, Independent Gentn, b. Middlesex London
Mary Bates, niece, unm, 44, Housekeeper, b. Kent NK
Emily Symons, visitor, unm, 25, visitor, b. Cambs
Selina Edgley, serv, 20, servant, b. do.
Sarah Jackson, serv, 15, b. Cambs Foulmire?

going back to 1851:
HO107/1524 198 44
St Botolph Aldgate, Middlesex
15 and 16 Minories?

Robert Carter, head, mar, 62, Warehouseman empl. 4 men, b. Aldgate
Robert Carter jun, son, 26, Assistant, b. Mddx Kent Road
William, son, 24, Assistant, b. Kent Maidstone
Elizth, dau, 22, b. do.
Mary Bates, niece, unm, 34, b. Kent Sittingbourne
Lydia Johnson, niece, mar, 28, b. Mddx St Pauls Churchyd Lane
Emma Flatman?, serv, unm, 26, House servant, b. Mddx Kennington  

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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 August 06 11:32 BST (UK) »
Sheila,
Thanks so much for this - exactly the right family, as two of her witnesses at the wedding were J.W.CARTER and M.A.CARTER, surely her brother and sister on the entry you so kindly sent me.
Her father's name was Robert, and if you can spot her with her parents in the 1851, then that would be a real bonus!
keith


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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 August 06 11:35 BST (UK) »
Tanja,
Your message came while I was replying to Sheila - this is excellent!  Father Robert CARTER living at another address in the 1861 Census in Melbourn; and as I suspected, too, a London connection...
Thanks so much for all this...
keith

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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 August 06 11:38 BST (UK) »
In 1841 they are at the same address.  Would you like the details?

In 1861 Joseph Walter is a pupil at Horn Lane, Linton, Cambs.

Sheila

Edit - Sorry Keith, Ignore this message, I was looking at 1851.

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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 August 06 11:52 BST (UK) »
Sheila,
Yes, please! (re the 1841 Census for the CARTER family in London, I mean...)
Don't quite understand that Joseph Walter CARTER appears to be at school in Horn Lane, Linton in the 1861 Census, when he's entered in St Botolph's, London, with his family, aged 21.
Did you possibly mean in the 1851 Census?
keith
Whoops! Messages criss-crossing here!  Could you give me his entry in more detail in the 1851 Census in Linton.  Obviously an early Cambs connection for this family.

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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 August 06 12:06 BST (UK) »
Keith

Please forgive me, I got myself in a pickle there and completely confused you (and myself).

In 1851 Joseph Walter is a pupil at the Collegiate School, Horn Lane, Linton, Cambs.

I haven't found them in 1841 yet (I was looking at 1851) but will continue to look for them and let you know.

Apologies ... Sheila
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Re: CARTER family in Melbourn in 1861 Census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 August 06 12:22 BST (UK) »
Sheila,
Thanks so much for that.  Must find out about this Collegiate School in Linton now.  You've been a great help to me...
keith