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Wrong Parents - have to start again
« on: Sunday 06 August 06 13:29 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
    I wonder if someone can help me re-establish the line Iam following.
I have had the wrong date for William J Collins birth and hence have been using the wrong parents.

Iam looking for  information on his real parents
Robert Edwin Collins and Harriett Port.

 I have them in the 1881 census as living at 1 Dent De Lion Cottages Margate Kent with children Harriet,Clara,John,Elizabeth Albert and William J.Collins(5mths)

I also  would like to find out who this William J Collins married to see if the forward part of my tree is still intact.

I would really appreciate if someone may be able to put me on the right track again.
Thank you for your help
Mariac


 
 

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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 August 06 13:40 BST (UK) »
In 1891 the family is in Worth, Kent ...

RG12/735 Folio 95 Page 9
Robert E Collins 47  Head ??? Sandwich
Harriet Collins 46  WIFE Woodnesborough
Albert E Collins 13 
Elleanor K Collins 6  Walmer
William J Collins 10  Margate
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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 August 06 13:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Mariac,

May I ask you what the starting point of your tree is, if you are not sure of parents nor children?

1881 has:
Robert Collins age 37 Richborough
Harriet, wife, 36, b. Woodnesborough
Harriet, dau, 12, b. Minster
...
In 1891, Roberts birthplace is Sandwich - Harriets is Woodnesboro

By 1901, Robert and Harriet were born in Ash.

Do you have this, or would you like the details?

1871
RG10/990 30 11
Minster, Kent

Robert E Collins, head, 27, Shepherd, b. Ash
Harriet, wife, 26, b. Woodnesborough
Sarah E M, dau, 4, b. Ash
Harriet, dau, 2, b. Minster
Clara, dau, 11mo, b. do.
 



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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 August 06 13:48 BST (UK) »
1851
HO107/1631 200 23
Woodnesborough, Kent

William Port, head, 46, Ag lab, b. Kent Staple?
Ann, wife, 43, b.do.
William, son, 11, b. Woodnesborough
Jane, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
Harriet, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
Richard, son, 2, scholar,b. do.

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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 August 06 13:50 BST (UK) »
In 1901, William has left home and Robert and Harriett are in Wickhambreux

RG13/791 Folio 99 Page 5.


William is not obvious - not using Margate as a PoB it would seem.

I havent looked for a marriage - w/o a census xref it will be a needle in a haystack I suspect !

any knowledge of his occupation in the early 1900s ?


I was now going to track back for Robert and Harriet but I see Tati is on the case  :)
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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 August 06 13:56 BST (UK) »


1891


Arnolds Cottages Worth Street
William Collins age 54? Market Gardener born Deal Kent
Dinah wife age 27
Mary Ann dau age 8

two families up

Egg Lane( Old Blue Pigeons Farm)

Robert E Collins age 47 Looker?? born Sandwich Kent
Harriet Colins age 46 born Woodnesborough Kent
Albert E age 13? work on Farm born Margate
William T age 10 born Margate
Elleanor K dau age 6 born Walmer Kent


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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 August 06 13:58 BST (UK) »
You can help me, Scropton  ;)
 Don't think Robert and Harriet's marriage is indexed...

The best match I see for Robert is:
1851
HO107/1631 40 2
Ash next Sandwich, Kent
Guston?

Robert Collins, head, 35, Ag lab
Sarah, wife, 39
Mary, dau, 8
Robert, son, 7
William, son, 1

All born Ash
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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 August 06 14:01 BST (UK) »
just found that one Tati - has the right ingredients.  ;)

DownUnder - what about the marriages from 1898 onward - a few William J's of various flavours - no way of knowing unless the requestor has knowledge ?
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Re: Wrong Parents - have to start again
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 August 06 14:04 BST (UK) »
1861 - looks the same family group ... of Collins

RG9/539 Folio 39 Page 3

Civil parish: Ash St Nicholas 
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury and Sandwich 

Robert Collins 46 
Mary Collins 18 
Robert Collins 16 
Willm Collins 11 
Henry Collins 9 

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