Morgan Thomas - Bedlinog

[Garethboxing]

Hi,
     Can anybody fill in the gaps regarding Morgan Thomas, who farmed at Coly Isaf, Bedlinog? He was there in the 1851 and 1861 Censuses, and was not there in 1891. Anyone know where he was in 1871 and 1881 and when he died? I believe he may have rented Coly Isaf from the Guest family and their Dowlais Iron Company - they certainly owned it in 1912, when it was sold to the current occupants. Can anyone confirm that?
     Regards, Gareth
     

[Cas (stallc)]

In 1871 he is still there. Is this the same one?

RG10 Piece 5389 Folio 22 Pg 4

Colly Isha Gelligaer (farm House)

(All born Gellygaer, unless stated)

Morgan Thomas 53 farmer 108 acres
Margaret Thomas 52
Edward Thomas 24  son, farm assistant,
Jane Thomas 21, dau
Mary Jane Thomas 14,  niece, Tredegar, Monmouth
Jane Jenkins, 17, Domestic servant, Carmarthenshire

Cas

[Garethboxing]

Hi Cas,
    Thanks for that - it's definitely my man. Now for 1881! If he died locally, I might head back there to see if there is a grave or memorial, but I'd need full details before I tackle those hills again. I'd never been to Bedlinog before this week, but it's on a mountainside and every road is up - with Coly Isaf (or Colly Isha) right on the top! Real mountain goat country!
   Cheers, Gareth

[Cas (stallc)]

1881

RG11 Piece: 5308 Folio 65 Pg 30

Colly Isha

Margaret Thomas 63, hd, wid, Farmer about 100 Acres
Hannah Harries 22  serv
Thomas Harries 22  serv
Morgan Lewis 13  gardener
David Morgan 30  serv

Cas
 

[Garethboxing]

Thanks again Cas, you're brilliant.
   So Morgan presumably popped his clogs between 1871 and 1881 and none of the children wanted to take on the farm. Margaret had left there by 1891; I wonder if she died or just moved out because it was too much work?
    Regards, Gareth

[Cas (stallc)]

This looks a good bet, but check it out there are so many thomas...I know from my lot

Deaths Jun 1879 Thomas  Morgan  69  Merthyr T  11a 269  

Good Luck

Cas

[Garethboxing]

Thanks yet again Cas,
    I hardly have time to thank you for one bit of info when I find there's another!
    Regards, Gareth

[Cas (stallc)]

This may answer your question, but as said, you need to check out, the surname is very common.

Deaths Jun 1882 Thomas  Margaret  72  Merthyr T.  11a 294

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

You may already have this?

1841 - HO107/1414/7
Merthyr Tydfil, Gelligaer  (Ages rounded up/down to nearest 5 on 1841) I can never remember!

Pant a Bain??

All born in County

Morgan Thomas 20, Gelligaer    collier
Margaret Thomas  20, Gelligaer 
Ann Thomas 10 mths, dau, Gelligaer
   
 
From the 1841 it looks like this is the likely marriage either of these Margaret.  Marriages Sep 1839

Rowlands  Margaret     Merthyr Tydfil  26 531   
Thomas  Margaret     Merthry Tydfil  26 531   
Thomas  Morgan     Merthry Tydfil  26 531   

Cas