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1861 or 1871 Census Sussex - John E Thorpe
« on: Wednesday 03 November 04 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

Its me again!!

I have recently become aware of a John E Thorpe who was born in either Ore (1881 census) or Fairlight (1891 census).  I am sure that he fits into my tree somewhere but I need to know who his parents are. 

John was 27 in the 1881 census when he was married and living in Hastings. Can he be found in either the 1861 or 1871 censuses?

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Roger
Thorpe (East Sussex), Wenham (East Sussex) Willett (East Sussex and Kent) Ades (East Sussex) Rushton (Staffordshire Moorlands) Finney (Staffordshire Moorlands) Wheeldon (Staffordshire Moorlands) Critchlow (Staffordshire Moorlands)

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Re: 1861 or 1871 Census Sussex - John E Thorpe
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 November 04 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Had a quick look, the ages of the following two are not quite right, but maybe on naming patterns you can decide if either may fit.  if they do let me know and I will send a copy
1871 census
Name Age in 1871 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View All living Ore
 
Eleanor Thorpe 45  Fairlight, Sussex,  Head 
Ore  Sussex   
George Thorpe 9 months  Ore, Sussex,  Grandson 
Ore  Sussex   
John Thorpe 12  Ore, Sussex,  Son 
Ore  Sussex   
Rosina Thorpe 20  Ore, Sussex,  Daughter 
Ore  Sussex   

and living as lodger
John Thorpe 23  Fairlight, Sussex, England
Lodger  Holy Trinity  Sussex 

All Male Thorpe's born Ore, Sussex, in the 1871 census, maybe a clue somewhere
Charles Thorpe 47  Ore, Sussex, England Head 
Fairlight  Sussex   
Frederick Thorpe 26  Ore, Sussex, England Head 
St Mary in the Castle  Sussex   
George Thorpe 9 months  Ore, Sussex,  Grandson 
Ore  Sussex   
James Thorpe 68  Ore, Sussex, England Head 
Fairlight  Sussex   
John Thorpe 12  Ore, Sussex, England Son 
Ore  Sussex   
William Thorpe 20  Ore, Sussex, England Son 
Fairlight  Sussex.

And born  Male Thorpe's born  Fairlight

Anthony Thorpe 36  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head 
St Mary Magdalene  Sussex   
Arthur Thorpe 11 months  Fairlight, Sussex, England Son  Fairlight  Sussex   
Benjamin Thorpe 31  Fairlight, Sussex, England Son  Guestling  Sussex   
Charles Thorpe 2  Fairlight, Sussex, England Son
 Fairlight  Sussex   
Edgar Thorpe 39  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head
 Rye  Sussex   
Fred Thorpe 32  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head 
Fairlight  Sussex   
Frederick S Thorpe 48  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head  Fairlight  Sussex   
George Thorpe 52  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head  Arlington  Sussex   
George Thorpe 22  Fairlight, Sussex, England Son  Arlington  Sussex   
Herbert Thorpe 35  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head 
St Mary in the Castle  Sussex   
James Thorpe 46  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head  Fairlight  Sussex   
James J Thorpe 63  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head  Guestling  Sussex   
John Thorpe 23  Fairlight, Sussex, England Lodger 
Holy Trinity  Sussex   
Mark Thorpe 32  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head 
Ore  Sussex   
Otto Thorpe 22  Fairlight, Sussex, England Son 
Fairlight  Sussex   
Peter Thorpe 31  Fairlight, Sussex, England Head  Brighton  Sussex   
Roland Thorpe 25  Fairlight, Sussex, England Servant 
St Mary Magdalene  Sussex   
Wallace Thorpe 33  Fairlight, Sussex, England Lodger  Arlington  Sussex   
William Thorpe 7  Fairlight, Sussex, England Son 
Fairlight  Sussex 

If any are of interest let me know and I will have a look for a few more details of the census  pages
Robyn



Walton (Huntingdonshire and NSW OZ)
Wilson (Sussex)
Hicks (Kent, Sussex, Surrey)
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Census Sussex - John E Thorpe
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 November 04 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Robyn

I bet that the weather in Oz  is better than here -I've just struggled home in the first snow of the winter!!!

Sorry to have taken a few days to get back to you but I have been busy with other things for the past few nights and I wanted to look carefully at all the Thorpes that you came up with.

Regarding John E Thorpe Eleanor's, 12 year old son is possibly the best bet.  Eleanor seems to have been a bit of a floosie - lots of children and no husband.  Possibly she and he did not know what his correct age was.  However I have no idea who John the Lodger was but I douby if he is John E Thorpe since it would seem unlikely that anyone would quote their age as 23 in 1871 but only 27 ten years later.

Now for the bad news for you.  I have never seen the 1871 census and every one of the male Thorpes that you have found (with the exception of John the Lodger) are definitely my relations.  In fact Arthur is my grandfather (my mother's father), Fred is my great grandfather and somewhere there should be a Charles (Otto's father) born Fairlight 1804 who was my great great grandfather.  This being the case I would love to see scans or transcript for all of them.  I feel rather guilty asking for so much information but it will allow me to put so much flesh on the bones of my ancestors.  If it makes life more reasonable for you you could post them at the rate of three or families each week.  However I will be eternally grateful to you for any information that you can provide on my Thorpes.

Take care.


Roger
Thorpe (East Sussex), Wenham (East Sussex) Willett (East Sussex and Kent) Ades (East Sussex) Rushton (Staffordshire Moorlands) Finney (Staffordshire Moorlands) Wheeldon (Staffordshire Moorlands) Critchlow (Staffordshire Moorlands)


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Re: 1861 or 1871 Census Sussex - John E Thorpe
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 November 04 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Roger,
I haven't worked out how to attach forms to the site so it you can e-mail me off site, I will get your e-mail and start sending them through over the weekend (Try clicking on my profile for the address, don't know if that works but know we can't post e-mail address in a message.  I will also e-mail you with my address hopefully that will work
Robyn
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Wilson (Sussex)
Hicks (Kent, Sussex, Surrey)
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Re: 1861 or 1871 Census Sussex - John E Thorpe
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 December 04 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Roger and Robyn

Robyn, thanks for helping Roger with his query, really appreciate that.

Roger, hello again mate - have you got all the info, scans etc from Robyn - if not will post what is missing here on this thread.

Just list your requirements

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