Thomas E TAYLOR / Elizabeth GARNER

[Abygail]

???Am hoping someone may be able to help me with obtaining info re my G gp's.   I know they married in 1881 in Loughbro' Nottinghamshire.  Had several girls and 2 sons (at least)Edwin Harold b1899 and Thomas Edwin b1906.   Allegedly Thomas and wife Elizabeth died during the 'blitz'  I don't know if was the result of. or the time frame.   When Thomas E Taylor enlisted in the Grenadier Guards c 1922 he gave his parents address as 13 Robo(?) Cottage, Bambury Street, Nottingham and brother E. Harold lived at Leicestershire Nottingham.     Apparently Harold died during the war as well, and Thomas (junior) migrated to Australia c1950 and died c1980's.   Any help will be most appreciated

[Tati]

Hi Abygail,

Are you sure they were married in 1881?

The only match I can come up with in 1901 is this one:
RG13/2978 75 4
Loughborough, Leicestershire
1 Chapel Ter
Thomas E Taylor, head, 21, Coalyard Labourer, b. Yorks Sheffield
Annie E, wife, 21, b. Notts Hyson Green Nottingham
Harold E, son, 2, b. Loughborough

I can see a birth for an Edwin Harold, but I can see
Harold Edwin Taylor June quarter 1899 Louhhborough 7a 134

  Do you think they are the ones?

[Mobo]

 

A Thomas Edwin TAYLOR
married an Elizabeth GARNER
in 1881 in Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
in March Qtr  7b 333

 

[Mobo]

 

1891 Census
RG12/2680
Wilford
Nottinghamshire

Thomas E TAYLOR/Head/34/Farmer/Beeston, Notts
Elizabeth TAYLOR/Wife/35/Snenton, Notts
Edith Martha TAYLOR/Dau/8/Nottingham
William Henry TAYLOR/Son/5/Wilford, Notts
Hannah GARNER/Boarder/21/Warehousewoman/Nottingham
John GLOVER/Servant/16/Farm Servant/Wilford, Notts
Hannah PAGE/Visitor/56/Nurse/Loughborough

 

[Tati]

Well done, Anne - I couldn't find the marriage (was looking in Leicestershire)

They don't have the Edwin Harold you mention in 1901, Abygail (there's 2 new daughters, Mabel age 9 and Annie age 6. Also, Elizabeth would have been 50+ at Thomas Edwin's birth...

[Mobo]

 

All I could find on the 1881 Census was

1881 Census
RG11/3342
Lordsville Rd ??
Radford
Notts

Thomas TAYLOR/Head/26/Carter/Carman/Radford, Notts
Elizabeth TAYLOR/Wife/23/Snenton, Notts
Eliza J TAYLOR/Dau/4/Snenton, Notts
Thomas TAYLOR/Son/12 months/Redford, Notts

Which could be our couple, and either Thomas could have been married before, or perhaps Elizabeth had children, or perhaps they married after their children were born.  Or.... it may not be them at all.....  funny though that this Elizabeth's birthplace is Snenton

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[Abygail]

Thank you all for confirming I was on the right track.    Thank you for the extra names for the children.   I have only started on this family in the last few years, have located an Uncle here in Australia but unfortunately the family is pretty well spread to the four winds and the oral history isn't that good.     One could say it is a rather disfunctional one as no-one seems to feel the need to stay in contact with each other.     Thankfully my maternal side was /is very much into staying in touch regularly.
I know a 25 year gap seems a little to big, (1881 - 1906) but I have a maternal GF born 25 years after his parents married (1876 - 1901) someone is the baby of the family and it was normal for families to cover 20 - 30 years.
I had found a marriage in 1881 for Thomas Edwin TAYLOR and Elizabeth GARNER  Vol 7b Page 333.    The family seemed to like repeating the Thomas Edwin as it has been repeated over 3 generations, before it was stopped (I think it has).    I had asked Uncle about the Taylor's and he doesn't remember much, as he joined the Navy as a young lad, the war (WWII) came along and in between a lot happened that he missed out on and he migrated as well.
GF did work as a pony boy in a coal mine prior to enlisting, apparently he wasn't particularly fond of his older sisters.   Uncle remembered some friction re GGF not staying in the mines as well. 
Which brings me back to asking, - how difficult is it to locate deaths that occurred during WWII?

[Tati]

Hi Abygail,

Just for completeness sake, here's the 1901 for them - which doesn't show a son Harold Edwin. 
RG13/3163 127 16
South Wilford, Nottinghamshire
Edwin Taylor, head, 46, Farmer, employer, at home, b. Beeston Notts
Elizabeth, wife, 46, b. Nottingham
Edith Martha, dau, 18, b. do.
William Henry, son, 15, Farmers son, b. Wilford
Mabel, dau, 9, b. do.
Annie, dau, 6, b. do.
George Harrison, serv, 14, Ordinary Ag lab, b. do.

Honestly, if they were mine, I'd get hold of Thomas Edwin's birth cert to make sure he's the son of Thomas Edwin and Elizabeth.

As for deaths, the indexes can be searched here:
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8966&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0

If they were war victims, you could also check the Commonwealth War Grave Comission site:
http://www.cwgc.org/

Tanja 

[seyshell]

Thomas Edwin b 1906 is my great grandfather, who died in qld, oz. 

His parents were thomas edwin and annie elizabeth allen.  my GG was born in hyson green,