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odd notation on birth registration index
« on: Thursday 07 September 06 15:17 BST (UK) »
This is from the index of birth registrations available on ancestry.com, for Jan-Mar 1931. The handwritten entry at the bottom of the page, Daphne Summers, is my mother.

I know the numbers/letters beside the name normally indicate a volume and page number - but what does "See D45" mean?
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Newson, London
Matten, London and Essex
Summers, London
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 September 06 15:25 BST (UK) »
I've seen similar annotations, but they've not impacted my findings like this one would - viz No Page number !

Its a GRO note, so maybe contacting the (succesor to) the original Hampstead LRO would reveal something - at least their own indexing for your mother !


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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 September 06 15:30 BST (UK) »
December 45!  8)

Was she adopted in Dec 1945, perhaps? 
 
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 September 06 15:33 BST (UK) »
Now thats what I call lateral thinking - looks good Daphne U mums maiden NEWSON Hampstead 1a 659
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 September 06 15:35 BST (UK) »
I saw something similar just a few weeks ago  ;)

I checked the March 1931 quarter whether the she was born a Newson but she wasn't...
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 September 06 15:48 BST (UK) »
now that's weird.

You are quite right, I checked Dec 1945 and sure enough there she is. So that note on the page for 1931 is a correction (because she really was born in Feb 1931) - but how odd there wouldn't be a corresponding note on the Dec1945 page, linking it to the corrected entry. If we didn't know when she was born this would be utterly confusing.

Thanks for clearing it up!
Howells, Abergavenny & Edinburgh
Bell, Edinburgh & Abergavenny
Mackay, Edinburgh
Newson, London
Matten, London and Essex
Summers, London
Filer, Suffolk

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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 September 06 15:52 BST (UK) »
I believe adoption is the only reason why she would have been registered again in 1945, this time under her new name.   

I don't think adoptions are ever linked to the original birth registration. To find out under what name she was born, you will have to check the whole March 1931 quarter for a Daphne U with mother's maiden name Newson.

Tanja  :)

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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 September 06 16:04 BST (UK) »
I think it will come as a great surprise to my mother to find out she was adopted.

In both the Mar1931 and Dec 1945 entries she is listed as Daphne Summers (her father's last name), mother's maiden name Newson, which we know is right, although it appears her parents were not married until the end of 1932. In December 1945 her father had just been released from a POW camp in Germany.

Would her father have had to legally adopt her, despite being her real father, just because they were married after she was born?
Howells, Abergavenny & Edinburgh
Bell, Edinburgh & Abergavenny
Mackay, Edinburgh
Newson, London
Matten, London and Essex
Summers, London
Filer, Suffolk

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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 September 06 16:15 BST (UK) »
Think you might be onto something there !

I know you can approach the Registry people to 'clarify' situations .....
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