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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 07 September 06 16:29 BST (UK) »
I've just gone back and checked, and there is an entry for her under Newson/Newson in the first quarter of 1931.

So it would appear that she was b before her parents were married, then her parents had her name legally changed to her father's in 1945, no doubt spurred by his wartime experiences (shot down over Nuremburg, then interned, etc).

Off to contact Camden Registry Office to see what kind of records they can produce - thanks for all your help, both of you!
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 07 September 06 16:57 BST (UK) »
Thinking about it, the GRO added that D45 note to the wrong 1831 index !

So effectively, there are 2 births for your mum ! and if it wasnt for the Xref she would be 14 years younger !

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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 September 06 17:13 BST (UK) »
The 1945 entry is not a link to something else, I believe, ScRoppers.

Sorry for saying there wasn't a Newson entry for her in 1931  :-[
Don't know how I managed to miss it  :P

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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 07 September 06 17:16 BST (UK) »
I know Tanja - I'm saying that adding 'See D45' to the surname Summers in 1931 was wrong - it should have been added to the 1931 Newson page index entry .....  :D
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 07 September 06 17:23 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure, ScRoppers...

Adoption is official falsification of documents  ::) so they just officially add a new Summers birth for March 1931 in 1945.
They never link the new registration with the original birth.





 
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 07 September 06 17:30 BST (UK) »
But she wasnt adopted - they 're-registered' her when dad came back from WWII to clear up her registered name to the correct one - they married after her birth  ....  ;)
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 07 September 06 17:37 BST (UK) »
You're right, of course  ::)

Doesn't a name change work the same way?
Perhaps her father wasn't officially recorded the first time?



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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 07 September 06 17:41 BST (UK) »
Thats right he wasnt - hence registered as Newson (Mum) - I guess they wanted it totally fixed in 1945 !

Name changes - you can take any name you like, you can back it up by Deed Poll, but it isnt necessary to register it with the GRO or anywhere else.

Hence you wont find an entry for 'Screaming Lord Sutch' or other well known politicians   :D

I use my dogs name a lot - 'on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog' ....  ;D ;D


PS. Its far harder to change the name of your house - I kid you not !  ;) ;)
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Re: odd notation on birth registration index
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 07 September 06 18:01 BST (UK) »
Now you have given me even more to look up - Deed Polls, Screaming Lord Sutch, etc. etc... have pity on a poor Canadian! I haven't even worked out where Camden is yet.

Change the name of a house? we don't even give them names in the first place, as a general rule.
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