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George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« on: Friday 08 September 06 13:45 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help me find George Smallmans parents?
George was born c1861 in Crow Hill, Herefordshire or Upton Bishop, Herefordshire.
The 1881 census shows him in Pembridge, Herefordshire (Head of household William Fletcher). George is a blacksmith, also with him is Edwin Smallman b c1856 also Crow Hill. Poss brother???
1891 finds him in Fishpool,Herefordshire,still a blacksmith married to Caroline (Caroline Esther Bubb) with 3 children.
I believe they had more children than that though.

Can anyone trace them on the 1901 census?
What happened to Edwin?
Can anyone trace George Smallman on any of the earlier censuses, 1841/51/61 or 1871? I'm desperate to find his parents.
Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 September 06 13:50 BST (UK) »
Just realised what I've written doesn't make sense! Of course George will only appear on the 1871 (and poss 1861) census having been b c1861!! ::)

However if anyone does find him on those can they see if they can find his parents on the earlier censuses?

Many thanks.

Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 September 06 14:03 BST (UK) »
Well... this will require more digging...

1861
RG9/1812 79 23
Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Crow Hill

William Smallman, head, 48, Cordwinder, b. Upton Bishop
Elizabeth, wife, 48, Boot Binder, b. Gloucestershire Mitcheldean
Mariann, dau, unm, 20, House servant, b. Upton Bishop
James, son, 15, Cordwinder, b. do.
Edwin A Gould do., son,6, scholar, b. do.
Martha H, dau, 3, b. do.
George, grandson, 1, b. Glostershire Abinhall

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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 September 06 14:05 BST (UK) »
1871
RG10/2865 77 19
Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Clowhill Village

William Smallman, head, 57, Shoemaker, b. Upton Bishop
Elizabeth, wife, 57, b. do.
Edwin, son, 16, b. do.
Martha, dau, 12, scholar, b. do.
George, grandson, 11, b. Glostershire Dean Forest 

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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 September 06 14:08 BST (UK) »
1861 RG9/1812 folio 79 page 23 Upton Bishop Herefordshire

William Smallman age 48  born Upton Bishop
Elizabeth Smallman age 48  born Mitcheldean Gloucestershire
Mariann dau age 20 born Upton Bishop
James age 15 son born Upton Bishop
Edwin A Smallman son age 6 born Upton Bishop Herefordshire
Martha M dau age 3 born Upton Bishop


George Smallman age 1 Grandson born Abinhall Gloucestershire  

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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 September 06 14:11 BST (UK) »
Grandfather William back in 1851:
HO107/1976 82 8
Upton Bishop, Herefordshire
Crowhill (or similar) Village

William Smallman, head, 38, Cordwinder, b. upton Bishop
Charlotte, wife, 39, b. Mitchel Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza, dau, 14, b. (can't read) Gloucestershire
John, son, 12, scholar, b. East Dean
Margeanna, dau, 10?, scholar, b. Upton Bishop
Lydia, dau, 7, scholar, b. do.
James, son, 5, b. do.
Catherine?, dau, 1, b. do.
 
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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 September 06 14:15 BST (UK) »
and 1841
HO107/421/21 4 3
Upton Bishop
Crow Hill

John Smalman, 70, Shoe m, no
Mary, 60, no
/
William, 25, Shoe m, yes
Elizabeth, 25, no
William, 6, yes
Eliza, 4, no
John, 2, no
Mary Ann, 4months, yes
   
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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 September 06 14:31 BST (UK) »
Tati and Down Under,
Thanks so much for the info. I've had George and a few other Smallmans hanging around for ages, fairly sure they belonged to my tree (most Herefords/Glos Smallmans seem to belong!) but not quite sure where. You've solved part of the mystery....George definately belongs as William and Elizabeth, HIS grandparents,are my 3x greats! Just got to find Georges parents now......hmmmm
Beverley
Leics-Sharp/Baker/Underwood
Marylebone-Osborne/Tod(d)
Herts- Sear, Cato
Bucks/ Beds-Impey/Field/Hall
Herefordshire-Smallman
Glos-Poole/Byard/Smallman
Middx-Kemp/Harris/Perrin/Lee/Cooper/Morrell
Middx-Ballard
Berks-Ballard
Wilts-Ballard
Hammersmith, Middx-Cranstone
Surrey/Middx-Jux
Villemagne, France- Perrin
Dunning, Perthshire-Tod/Niven
Dorset- Tod/d
Milner- Neenton, Shropshire
Edwards- Neenton, Shropshire
Poultney/Beswick-Kidderminster, Worcs

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Re: George SMALLMAN born c1861 Herefordshire?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 September 06 15:12 BST (UK) »
1860 George Smallman Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
6a 202


Lydia Smallman Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
1864 June quarter 6a 380 Richard Trigg



1871 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire RG10/2604 folio 37 page 2

Richd Trigg age 26 born Westbury on Severn
Lydia Trigg age 26 born Upton Bishop Herefordshire
Willm J son age 6 born Westbury
Richd son age 5 born Westbury
Fredk H son age 2

1861 RG9/1812 folio 82 page 29 Upton Bishop Herefordshire

Baches House Crow Hill is Just down the page
Francis H Adams Banker at Ross and Hereford
Mary A Powell servant age 25

John Smallman age 22 ag lab born Drybrook Forest of Dean
Benjamin Baldwin Carter



Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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