John "Jack" JARNELL

[cheryle.f]

It seems you may have to look at the John with parents Benjemen and Fanny The 'Willie' i found also turned out to be a son of William and Sarah and brother to the other John who Jennie has claimed. . I also had another rellie who didnt want to seem too much older than his bride so entered age 22 on his marriage cert when in fact he was 29

As Jennie has given you info on the 1882 John it looks likely that the 1891 John is the only other Jarnell(John)born anywhere near 1895.

                                 best wishes cheryle

               Oct Nov Dec 1924 Gainsbro 7c 1793 John W Jarnell and Annie Parkin

                                 

[KMFRoberts]

Hi,
Thanks for the information, especially the marriage reference which I hadn't found. Now I can send for the certificate and check his father's name, that's real progress for me. My Great Aunt Annie died about 1988 in a nursing home in Gainsborough aged 92yrs and we have lost touch with any remaining family, so this really helps me.
Heartfelt thanks to you all,
Kathryn

[KMFRoberts]

Hi,
Can we revisit this question please?
I now have the marriage cert for John William Jarnell and Annie Parkin married 23.10.1924 at Gainsborough register office. It states that John William was a widower, aged 40 making him born c1884. It gives his father's name as William Jarnell an engineer's labourer.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Kate.

[AMBLY]

Hi Kate

Looks like could be him? This looks like the same one Jennie has:

1891: Gainsborough All Saints, Lincolnshire
REF: RG12 - 2634 / F46 / Pg37
ADDRESS: 4 Ashforths Square
Head: William JARNELL 35, Iron Moulders Labourer, b Coningsby, Lincs/
Wife: Sarah JARNELL 30, b Barrow in Humber, Lincs.
Dau: Sarah A JARNELL 10, Scholar, b Gainsbourough Lincs.
Son: John JARNELL 9, b Gainsbourough Lincs.
Dau: Ada JARNELL 4, b Gainsbourough Lincs.
Dau: Lily JARNELL 2, b Gainsbourough Lincs.
Dau: ALice JARNELL 2 mths, b Gainsbourough Lincs.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

And this looks like your man in 1901: same street as in 1891

1901: Gainsborough All Saints, Lincolnshire
REF: RG13 - 3113 / F 37 / Pg13
ADDRESS: 5 Ashforth Square
Head: George Wm DUNDERDALE 21, General Labourer, b Gainsborough Lincs
Wife: Sarah A DUNDERDALE 21,  b Gainsborough Lincs
Son: John Hy DUNDERDALE 7 mths,
Visitor Boarder: John Wm JARNELL 19, unm, Oil Drillers? Labourer,  b Gainsborough Lincs

Looks like he is with his sister:
MARRIAGE : Gainsborough Dec Qtr 1899 - 71, pg 1585
Sarah Anne JARNELL
George William DUNDERDALE

And father William JARNELL died:
DEATH: Sep Qtr 1898  - William JARNELL age 43, 7a, pg 475 Gainsborough

1901: Gainsborough All Saints, Lincolnshire
REF: RG13 -  3113 / F36 / Pg11
ADDRESS: 4 Ashforth Sq
Head: Sarah JARNELL 41, Widow, Charwoman, b Barrow on Humber, Linc
Son: George JARNELL 14, b Gainsbrough Lincs

Cheers
AMBLY

[KMFRoberts]

Cheers for that Ambly,
It would seem to be the same guy that Jennie has, that confused me as Jennie has no knowledge of him re-marrying and has him with Sarah Bailey. I would be interested to hear back from Jennie, so we can compare notes and solve the mystery.
Thanks for all your hard work, much appreciated.
All the best,
Kate.

[Jennie from Lincs]

Kate

The Geo Wm & Sarah A Dunderdale are my husband's grandparents (The clue is in the list of people I am researching).  Sarah's brother, John Wm Jarnell was living with them on the 1901 but I didn't think it was the same person you were looking for as the dates didn't match with mine.  He was working as an Oil Mill Labourer.  I have John Wm married to Sarah Ann Bailey reg Dec Q 1901, Gainsborough 7a 1650.  The children I've found for them are Violet b 1912, William B b 1913, Edna Maud b 1916 and Phyllis b 1918.  There are possibly more born earlier in their marriage.  I am not aware of a second marriage but I haven't looked for one.  I have quite a bit of info I am happy to share with you.

Jennie

[KMFRoberts]

Hi Jennie,
Thanks for coming back to me.
It could possibly be the same guy. He was a widower and 40 years old when he married my Great Aunt Annie. There were 4 children that my mum and aunts remember who were Jack's from his first marriage, my Aunt Jean, the eldest of mum's sisters thinks there were others but they had left home before he re-married. I will try find one that I can send for a birth cert for out of those who were known to my family, that should confirm if it's the same man. I would be really interested to share info.
Regards,
Kate.

[suzard]

This may be son of the John you are seeking

Death index
John William Jarnell
d.o.b. 20 Nov 1927
Death reg Oct 1998
age 70
Lincoln
B57C 62

also Great Aunt Annie's death reg


Annie Jarnell
birth date 14 Apr 1896
Death reg Nov 1988
Age 92
Gainsborough
7 1493

Suz