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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 October 06 14:45 BST (UK) »
Just found out for myself that there are no deaths listed on the OPR's (guess that gives me a good excuse to go to Edinburgh though at some point in the near future).

Just about to have a look at the census info.

I've found a marriage between Robert Laurie (Lawrie) and Agnes McNeil in Girthon on 5th April 1846 so it looks as though I'm getting somewhere (at least I hope I am).

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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 October 06 14:54 BST (UK) »
Glad you're finding something. Obviously Janet died between Nov 1841 and April 1846.

Any burial records (lair books) will probably be in Castle Douglas for Kirkcudbrightshire rather than Edinburgh. I had the same problem and visited there. Unfortunately, they didn't have records going back as far as I wanted  :(

You might be able to pick up something from the Kirk Sessions Minute Books but don't bank on it. They are in Edinburgh.

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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 01 October 06 15:19 BST (UK) »
It looks possible that living in No.1 and 3, next to Robert and family in the 1851 Census could be Robert Laurie's brothers:

LAURIE Margaret, daughter of William Laurie, 4, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE William, head of household, MINER, 40, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE William, son of William Laurie, 7, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Catherine, daughter of William Laurie, 6,  born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE David, son of William Laurie, 2, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Grace, daughter of William Laurie, 1,  born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE John, son of William Laurie, 9, born Dalry Ayrshire
LAURIE Margaret, wife of William Laurie , 30,  born Kirkcudbright K

Address: 3 Swan Street, Village of Gatehouse(866) Parish: Girthon
 
LAURIE Agnes, wife of John Laurie, 36, born Balmaclellan Kb
LAURIE Agnes, daughter of John Laurie, 1, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Edward, son of John Laurie, 5, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE John, head of household, LABOURER general, 41, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE Robert, son of John Laurie, 7, born Girthon Kbt
LAURIE William, son of John Laurie, 13, born Girthon Kbt

Address: 1 Swan Street, Village of Gatehouse(866) Parish: Girthon

I think that Gadget's find on IGI for Robert's parents looks good (although as a submitted entry, the christening date does seem slightly out):

There are the children showing on IGI for a John LAURIE and Catherine PORTER:

1. WILLIAM LAURIE  Birth: 1811 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
2. NANCY THORBURN LAURIE Birth: 27 MAY 1822 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
3. Robert Laurie Birth: 09 JUN 1808 Gatehouse Of Fleet, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
4. CATHARINE LAURIE hristening: 22 SEP 1828 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
5. ANNE LAURIE Christening: 16 APR 1820 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
6. JEAN LOUREY Christening: 28 MAY 1804 Girthon, Kirkcudbright, Scotland

The girls' entries are all actual extracts, the boys' are submitted entries (may be something to do with only girls' records being loaded onto IGI for this period perhaps?).

There is an actual extract for what looks like parents' marriage:

JOHN LOWRIE  Marriages: Spouse:  CATHARINE    
Marriage: AUG 1803 Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbright, Scotland

There is also a submitted entry for this John's death on IGI, perhaps something to follow up to see where the precise date comes from:

John Laurie     Death: 20 FEB 1832 

Regards.

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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 01 October 06 15:24 BST (UK) »
That would fit with the baptism entry I found on the IGI for Robert in 1808 Monica. Patron submission though. I think the reference is about the third message on this thread.

There were 6 other Lowries on the 1841 in Girthon.

Interestingly, I have Porters in Girthon  :)

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Oops - see you'd seen it - got buried in everything you've found.

Now if it was Balmaclellan, I have a 1790s census  :(
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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 01 October 06 15:34 BST (UK) »
Just found a site that may be worth investgating for your family:

http://www.gatehouse-of-fleet.co.uk/history.htm

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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 01 October 06 15:41 BST (UK) »
Just found a site that may be worth investgating for your family:

http://www.gatehouse-of-fleet.co.uk/history.htm

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Wow - brilliant, I can see that I'm going to be doing some exploring both via this site and in person - after all, it's only really a hop skip and a jump from Cumbria to Scotland

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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 01 October 06 15:44 BST (UK) »
You could take a boat even - that's how my gang got from KKD to Liverpool and thence to Wales  :D

So far I haven't found anything on Jannet - some possibles in Ayrshire but  :-\


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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 01 October 06 15:47 BST (UK) »
It looks possible that living in No.1 and 3, next to Robert and family in the 1851 Census could be Robert Laurie's brothers:

Monica, I did try to thank you earlier for this but it hasn't shown up - don't know what I did wrong but I'm extremely grateful for the help.

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Re: Robert Laurie & Janet Lyons
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 01 October 06 16:13 BST (UK) »
The idea of Robert being a (small) mine owner, might not have been far from the truth. I've just found this in Andrew McCulloch's Galloway, A Land Apart, Birlinn, Edinburgh (2000), page 467:

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Lead, and to a certain extent copper, was also mined in the hills around Gatehouse, but the ores were soon exhausted, and the abandoned and waterlogged mines which are visible today bear silent testimony to the financial losses incured by a number of local people...

Might be worth doing a bit of scouting around the industrial history of the area.

Gadget - must go watch the football  :)
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