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1891--1901 look up please!!!!!
« on: Thursday 05 October 06 23:01 BST (UK) »
can anyone find where my granddad was in 1901?

he was Edward Glover-b-1897 in Leigh [i think?]
his father was George [unsure of mothers name]
other children where:
Harriet-b-1891
William-b-1898
Alice Maud-b-1899



also the parents of George [Edward's father]
they were:
Robert Glover and Levina Glover-Nee:- Marshell
children:
Edward
George [father of Edward]
Jane Ann
in 1881 they are on board the canal boat---Weaver.

and Edward [son of Robert & Levina]
in 1891 he was captain on the canal boat----Caslehead [or--Castlehead!]

if anyone can find any info on them,i would be very gratefull :)
many thanks,
Chris.

oh yes!! they were from the Wigan area.

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Re: 1891--1901 look up please!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 October 06 23:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris
This certainly looks like them - but the ages of the children are at least a decade on whatr you've stated.... ::)

List of Officers, Crew and Others On Board the Ship "Irwell" on the Night of Sunday, 31st March 1901

1901: Town:Garston Dock, Lancashire
Ecclesiastical parish:Garston St Michael
RD :West Derby  Sub-RD :Wavertree
REF: Class: RG13; Piece: 3507; Folio: 227; Page
VESSEL: "Irwell"
Master: Geo GLOVER, marr, 50,  Boatman (Barge) (Worker) b Astley Lanc
Passenger: ALice GLOVER , marr, 45,  Wife,  b Hindley Green Lanc
Passenger: Harriet GLOVER 20, Child, b West Leigh Lanc
Passenger: Edward GLOVER , 18, Child, b West Leigh Lanc
Passenger: Wm GLOVER, 17, Child, b Bebington Cheshire
Passenger: Alice Maud GLOVER 13, Child, b Bebington Cheshire
Mate: Jno FORMISTON unm, 25, Boatman (Barge), b Astley Lanc

George = 1851
Alice = 1856
Harriet = 1881
Edward = 1883
William = 1884
Alice Maud = 1888

Cheers
AMBLY
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 October 06 00:23 BST (UK) »
1891:Westleigh Lancashire
Ecclesiastical parish:St Mary
RD :Leigh , Sub RD :Westleigh
REF: Class: RG12; Piece: 3086; Folio 24; Page 42
ADDRESS: 274 Twiss? Lane
Head: Lavinia GLOVER, marr, 53, b West Leigh Lanc, b Tyldesley Lanc
Dau: Jane A GLOVER 17, unm, Cotton Frame Tenter, b Astley Lancs
Dau-in-Law: Mary GLOVER 21, marr, Canal Boat Woman, b Acton, Cheshire
Grandson: Robert GLOVER 4,
Grandson: William GLOVER 1,

Next :door"
200 Twuiss Lane "Railway Hotel"
Head: Joseph GLOVER 36, Publican, b West Leigh Lanc
Wife: Helen GLOVER 39, b West Leigh Lanc
Dau: Nancy GLOVER 11, Scholar, b West Leigh Lanc
Son: John GLOVER 9, Scholar, b West Leigh Lanc
Son: Thomas GLOVER 7, Scholar, b West Leigh Lanc
Dau: Jane GLOVER 4, Scholar, b West Leigh Lanc
Son: William GLOVER 1,b West Leigh Lanc
Servant: Margaret CRANK, 27, unm, General Domestic Serv, b West Leigh Lanc
Servant: Nancy CRANK 25, unm, General Domestic Serv, b West Leigh Lanc


1881:  Liverpool St George, Lancashire
REF: Class: RG11; Piece: 3614; Folio: 87; Page: -8
VESSEL "WEaver"
Robert GLOVER 42, Master Barge, b Wigan Lanc
Levano GLOVER, 40, Master's wife, b Tyndsley Lanc
Edward GLOVER 13, Master's son, b Tyndsley Lanc
George GLOVER 11, Master's son, b Astley Green Lanc
Jane Ann GLOVER 9, Master;s daughter, b Astley Green Lanc

Something is not right in the relationships you've stated - Robert & Lavinia's son George is 11 in 1881 (so would be about 21 in 1891, 31 in 1901) - yet it certainly looks like your Grandfather Edward's father George was 50 in 1901.... ??? Making your Edward's father more likely a brother of Robert, not a son.....?

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AMBLY
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Re: 1891--1901 look up please!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 October 06 20:49 BST (UK) »
Ambley,
thank you for your input,
i have printed out your replys and i am going to hang on to them.

It gets so complecated!
i know granddad was born Jan 1897, i always thought he was born 1900--01,untill i got the marriage cert of 1924 and he was 27,so i worked it out to 1897. i live in the Wirral area and i have looked and looked for him in this area to no avail,so i started to look further afield, i have found what looks to be him as it was the only Edward Glover in that Q of 1897.

As for 1901, i think the ages are all wrong, it makes me wonder if children were'nt allowed to live on barges,or if they didn't go to school the parents did'nt want to be found out!!

There is no one left now to ask, my Auntie [Edward's daughter]
can't remember her grandmother's name, but she said the grandfather was "George" and his name is on the wedding cert.
Thanks for your help.
Chris.

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 October 06 16:46 BST (UK) »
i have found this one baptism in bebington cheshire-
william glover bapt 11th sept 1898.parents george glover and alice.this confirms more or less what you have said about his date of birth.
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alli
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 October 06 19:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks alli,
I have sent for Granddads birth cert, that should be here next week, i'm almost sure i have the right family.
No use asking my Auntie [Edwards daughter] don't think she is interested,she doesn't know her grandmothers name.
I always remember my Nan saying "Glover" is an old family of New Ferry, which is what made me think he was born New Ferry, but now i have found he wasn't! she must of meant from the time she married granddad.
Thanks for your help.
Chris.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi cg

My great grandfather was Edward Glover (Tyldsley) who was married to Mary from Acton Bridge. It would seem we have the same issue regarding his children's ages.

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