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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:03 BST (UK) »
Intriguing !

So should my parents when they were married be using the surname Hanham .... and thus should my birth (two years after their marriage) be recorded with that surname ?   And should I have subsequently married (and divorced !) using the Hanham surname ?   Am I legal ?    ;D    ;D    ;D

Very interesting !!!

And I see Jenjoburg has only been on here once .... pity, as it would be good to contact her as we are distantly related !
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:04 BST (UK) »
Girl Guide .... this is getting very interesting indeed !

I need to go up into the loft and find all my FH stuff to see what I've got in the way of certificates, etc. 
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:11 BST (UK) »
Hhmmm, I have found a William Poplett with the birth date that you gave on the 1939 Register.

The 'parents' are listed as Alfred and Florence Poplett.  There is this marriage for what I assume is the correct couple:-

Marriages Dec 1919
Poplett    Alfred    Poulter    Brentford    3a   398   
Poulter    Florence    Poplett    Brentford    3a   398

Going by the birth date for Florence, this looks to be most likely for her birth registration

POULTER, FLORENCE  EDITH EMILY    GINNER 
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 467

This is the only one that comes up for Alfred in the relevant time frame for his birth date as per the 1939

POPLETT, ALFRED       HARMAN 
GRO Reference: 1894  D Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 190
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:14 BST (UK) »
I checked on FreeBMD   and have this:

September 1908   (marriages)
HANHAM    Caroline Susan A        Fulham    1a   756   
POPLETT    Alfred                        Fulham    1a   756


I haven't checked the 1939 .....
Dorset/Wilts/Hants: Trowbridge Williams Sturney/Sturmey Prince Foyle/Foil Hoare Vincent Fripp/Frypp Triggle/Trygel Adams Hibige/Hibditch Riggs White Angel Cake 
C'wall/Devon/France/CANADA (Barkerville, B.C.): Pomeroy/Pomerai/Pomroy
Som'set: Clark(e) Fry
Durham: Law(e)
London: Hanham Poplett
Lancs/Cheshire/CANADA (Kelowna, B.C. & Sask): Stubbs Walmesley

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:34 BST (UK) »
I just thought I would look at the 1911 census and the below is what I have found for a William Poplett.

Family living at 15 Coningham R S Bush, Hammersmith, London & Middlesex

Residents are Alfred and Carrie Poplett are the parents.  The children are given as George Poplett 1893, Nellie Hanham 1894 (step-daughter), Alfred Poplett (1895), May Poplett (1904), Rose Poplett (1906) and William Poplett (1908).

Although May is down as Poplett her birth registration is

HANHAM, MAY  POPLETT     COX 
GRO Reference: 1903  J Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 205

There doesn't appear to be a birth record for Nellie.

George???

POPLETT, GEORGE  ALFRED     HARMAN 
GRO Reference: 1892  D Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 226

Looks as if Caroline is Alfred's second wife, this appears to be his first

Marriages Dec 1891

Harman    Agnes        Fulham    1a   518   
Poplett    Alfred        Fulham    1a   518

The original of the 1911 claims marriage of 8 years and six children, so someone taking liberties with the truth somewhere.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:38 BST (UK) »
I looked at the 1901 census and Alfred is a widower living with what appears to be his uncle.

Registration district   Fulham
Archive reference   RG13
Piece number   40
Folio   167
Page   59

Death of Agnes

Deaths Sep 1899 
Poplett    Agnes    32    Fulham    1a   152
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:49 BST (UK) »
Caroline Susan Ann Cox married Alfred Henry Hanham at St Luke's Shepherds Bush on 17 April 1892. 
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 13:50 BST (UK) »
Alfred Henry Hanham died 1900.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Curioser and curioser ... my Dad has 2 birth records !
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 25 May 21 14:15 BST (UK) »
So is this Caroline's death?

Deaths Mar 1922 
Poplett    Caroline S A    51    Kensington    1a   291

Gives a birth year of 1871.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire