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Re: Elsie May james look up please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 November 06 06:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there 
well  by  the  certificate  the  writing  is  not  the best  or  worst I  have seen  but  it could definately  be John Mass
not Moss

now John William Schultz was born 1896 Eucha  to  Handrick Thomas Schultz  and Mary Alfreda Collins  reg no 3031

and  he  died  in 1955 aged 58  in melbourne  reg no 2397


let  us  know  if  you  need  any siblings  for  him  etc

it  is  possible  that  elsie remarried  after  he died

regards jenn
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Re: Elsie May james look up please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 November 06 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn,

Thank you so much, your help has been endless and much appreciated.

As for Elsie remarrying I don't think she did as she was still known as Schultz when my grandfather died in 1980.

The name for John is Moss as this is what all his children were known as even tho they were born Maass.
The name change may have come about due to the war they may not have wanted to be recognized as German so anglicized their last name
All the descendants from John Emil Maass in my family are now Moss.

If it is no bother I would love Handricks siblings if there are any.

Last but not least I apologize to the moderator for the cert image i put up I should have read the rules more throughly, I didn't realize I had put too much of the image up as it was only part of the certif.

Cheers Raels
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Re: Elsie May james look up please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 November 06 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there

sibling for John William Schultz


Clarence Handrick Schultz  born Eucha 1896/3031

he died  in 1966/19529 aged 73


A
Hendrick Thomas Schultz died 1923/1375 at Eucha aged 61
parents  John Schultz  and Ann Shepherd (not  sure  if  this  is Handrick Thomas Schultz though )

Mary Alfreda Schultz died 1928/16358 aged 71 Melbourne
parents John Collins  mother  not  known

still  looking  for their  marriage

reagrds Jenn
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Re: Elsie May james look up please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Raels

Handrick SCHULTZ (born: Dandenong) married Mary Alfreda SMITH (Ipswich) in 1892 Reg: 2179

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there

Handrick Thomas Schutz born 1861 at MULG reg no 5321

parents John Schutz  and Ann Strange

regards Jenn
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CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Elsie May james look up please
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 11:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn and Genni

Looking on the marriage certif john Schultz was 24 in 1920 so birth year would be 1896 with the info you gave me for Clarence H Schultz had birth year 1896 so looks like john Schultz was a twin also Clarence was a witness at the marriage sorry only just looked at it again it does also state John Schultz place of birth was Echuca mothers name is listed as Mary Alfreda Smith not sure about the death for Mary Alfreda you put up as fathers last name is Collins so will have to look into that one.
Thank you both for your effort and time

cheers Raels

Moss/ Maass - Australia/Germany?
Jones Australia/England
Lancaster Australia/England
Hucklebridge Australia/England
 Breeze ?
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Re: Elsie May james look up please
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there 

with  mary alfreda Shultz  death  father  john collins  she  may  have  been  a collins  and  married  a  smith

also  my apologies  clarence  was  born  in 1893 sorry  to do  that  to  you  notes  are  jumbled  also  on both the  boys birth  mother  is  mary alreda collins  not  smith

regards jenn

When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au