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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 03:07 GMT (UK) »
ANd here's gt gt Grandma in 1901:

1901: Chard, Somerset
REF: RG13/ Piece 2293- Folio 20- Pg31
ADDRESS: Fore Street
Head: Henry ELSTON 57, Blacksmith (Employer) b Stockland Devon
Wife: Mary A ELSTON 60, b Charmouth Dorset [Blind]
Dau: Beatrice ELSTON 20, unm, Housekeeper, b Chard SOmerset
Son: Reginald ELSTON 15, Butcher, b Chard SOmerset
Mother-in-Law: Sarah GOLLOP 88, wid, b Charmouth Dorset [Blind]
ServL: Simeon WOOLMINGTON 19, unm, Blacksmith - Worker , b (Not Known)

Still not winkling out William in 1841 though!

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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 08:40 GMT (UK) »
 :) Hi Al b, Do you have marriage deatails now of Edward and Sarah? Is it likely that Jnr Hodges is William so maybe Sarahs son before she married Edward ???


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I spent ages looking for him but like Ambly no luck,  so this is the only thing i can come up with.
mussellwhite, musselwhite,curtis, grey or gray,bundy,moody, lawrence  and now Webb   in wiltshire,hampshire and dorset.
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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 09:01 GMT (UK) »
 :)  I would like Ambly to have a look at this and and throw in thoughts on it.  I may be barking up the wrong  ;D tree  ;D here.......

    1839  Dorchester & C  Oct Nov Dec 1839

    Sarah Ann Hodges  and  William Gollop  8  05

  Maybe son of Sarah took Williams name and William Gollop called himself by his middle name?
I am still having another look for a possible marriage


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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 09:22 GMT (UK) »
i have these 3 baptisms for williams siblings but alas no william-
mary ann gollop bapt 2nd aug 1840 charmouth
edward samuel bapt 5th march 1843 charmouth
eliza louise bapt 31st oct 1847 charmouth
parents edward gollop and sarah
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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 09:36 GMT (UK) »
 :) Hi Alli.....do you know if Charmouth would come under Dorchester & c in 1839?


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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 14:32 GMT (UK) »
 :)  One  Step forward two steps back....there is another marriage.

    Sarah Clarke and Edward Gollop  26 Dec 1836 Charmouth

but what is important to remember is that Gollop was a very common name in Charmouth..........and why couldnt Alli find a birth for William under Parents Edward and Sarah? but could find all the other children. I had a look at the 41 Alli  and thought that the enumerator entered JNO as abbreviation for John Hodges.. What do you think? On the same page Jno is written a few times more even in an instance where the male head of house has a son but not of the same name.

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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 14:38 GMT (UK) »
the 41 certailey reads like jno(abb for john) hodger/s 6yrs.maybe its a nephew and not son william?maybe he was with relatives in 41?
just a thought
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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Al,

Hi Cheryle and Alli

I've just got up and and see how busy you've been!  ;D ;D
He's a bit difficult to find 1841 isn't he? Like you I've checked  GOLL*P/ GALL*P with with Wm, William etc and the only one I found in DOrset right age certainly looked like he belonged to the house he was in....I think I even  checked for all Williams in Charmouth and have a feeling there were none at all. 

My closing thought for the day, was that he could be  one of the 2 William GOLLOPS of the right age in Honiton Devon (where Edward was from) - they do both say born in Devon but that could be an error. Maybe should follow this up  as  finding William in  1841 may lead Al back to at least one Gt Gt Gt  ;D

Who do you think may be Edwards parents - there's a number on the IGI. I thought should  try and narrow tthem down too ..,,,,

Will get a couple of coffees under my belt first - be interesting to see what you think!   My other thought was that, if Sarah was from a different parish, William may actually have been baptised there - being as he looks like he's the eldest, Sarah may have went home to Mum for his birth????  I also thought the boy in 1841 with Ed & Sarah would likely be a nephew - can we find him later on maybe...

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Re: William Gollop
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 07 November 06 18:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi  and thanks to all On her say and bits and pcs.I remember grandma saying that Her fathers father was a mason so I think you have the right one I may have the wrong year of birth for William could be why he didnt show up on 1841 . Thanks again  you people ar the best ;D ;)   al b
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