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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #36 on: Friday 01 December 06 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Yes will do.
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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #37 on: Monday 11 December 06 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Right, have just had a verbal report from the archeologist. The monuments are a mixture of floor monuments and external gravestones that have been moved from their original position and in some cases, cut to fit the space available. Some of the stones are imbossed and would have originally held brasses. The archeologist thinks that the skull and crossbones denotes poverty, but as the grave is for the son of the vicar, perhaps poverty was a relative term. He also thinks there is a well underneath the church and certainly a crypt that has been blocked up for so long that nobody knows its location. Furthermore, he is convinced that the rest of the church, which consists of pews mounted on raised platforms, probably also covers a host of similar memorials. What a shame that cost prohibits any investigation, but you never know, one day....

There were plenty of photographs taken and if any of them come out well, I will post on here. No need to get any archeological experts in to do any further work however as we are not going to damage the graves although they will invariably be covered over.
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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #38 on: Monday 11 December 06 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Nick for your update. I look forward to seeing any photos. It's a fascinating story...... much enjoyed.

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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #39 on: Monday 11 December 06 22:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the information Nick very interesting
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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 06:17 GMT (UK) »
Thank,s for the update Nick,good to know that that much is recorded.
Just one thing bother,s me,when that 'One Day' come,s there,s going to be quite a few job,s to be done!!
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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 07:46 GMT (UK) »
The archeologist thinks that the skull and crossbones denotes poverty, but as the grave is for the son of the vicar, perhaps poverty was a relative term.

One of the sites I use has these meanings (but there may be more):

skull & crossbones = Death, crucifixion
skeleton = Death, Life's Brevity
skull = transitory nature of earthly life; penitence and mortality.

Any of which would seem apt for a vicar's son  :D

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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Just another angle on the skull.  In a book I have it can represent the skull of Adam.
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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the update Nick, look forward to seeing any photographs.  It's proved a very interesting exercise, what a pity it's not feasible for it to be taken further.

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Re: You never know, it might be out there somewhere
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 16 December 06 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Dunno how these pictures will turn out. First is a general piccie to show context and second is to show more detail. You can see where the brasses used to be quite easily. Might have some better pix shortly.
E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell