Rae's of Polmont

[hmguk]

Hi I am looking for the parents of Peter Rae b. c. 1805 in Polmont.  Peter Rae married Helen Jack. There seem to be so many different branches of Rae from there that I am lost. Father may be John Rae and mother an unknown Beveridge. Any help would be appreciated.

[MonicaL]

Hi Hmguk

Welcome to RootsChat!

Just checking that you have Peter and Helen's 1841 Census entry in the Gorbals, Glasgow. All the family show as being born in Lanarkshire County:

Peter, age 35-39, coal miner
Helen, 33
James, 14
Janet, 12
Elizabeth, 10
Helen, 8
Margaret, 5
John, 2

Address: Polmadie, Gorbals, Lanarkshire

Regards.

Monica

[MonicaL]

This is their marriage showing on IGI, an actual extract from the Old Parish Registers (OPRs):

PETER RAE  Marriages: Spouse: HELEN JACK    
Marriage:  05 AUG 1826  Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

[MonicaL]

...and entries for their children's birth/christenings, backing up the census info, mostly actual extracts although some submitted entries also:

1. James Rae  Birth: 26 DEC 1826/ Christening: 14 JAN 1827 Polmont, Stirling, Scotland (submitted entry)
2. CATHERINE RAE Birth: 24 SEP 1846/ Christening: 01 NOV 1846 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
3. ELIZABETH RAE Birth: 08 APR 1831/ Christening: 24 APR 1831 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
4. JEAN RAE  Birth: 13 AUG 1841/ Christening: 12 SEP 1841 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
5. MARGARET RAE Birth: 19 APR 1836/ Christening: 19 JUN 1836 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
6. JOHN RAE Birth: 04 FEB 1839/ Christening: 03 MAR 1839 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
7. AGNESS RAE Birth: 11 AUG 1851/ Christening: 21 SEP 1851 Govan, Lanark, Scotland
8. ANN RAE Birth: 24 JUN 1849/ Christening: 19 AUG 1849 Govan, Lanark, Scotland
9. JANET RAE Christening: 04 JAN 1829 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
10. PETER RAE Birth: 22 FEB 1844/ Christening: 24 MAR 1844 Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland

Have you found Peter in later Censuses to confirm his birth place? 

Monica
   

[MonicaL]

I believe it was probably Helen's parents who were John and mother's surname Beveridge. From IGI, an actual extract from the OPRs, Helen's details:

HELEN JACK     Birth: 14 OCT 1808/ Christening:  30 OCT 1808  Gorbals, Lanark, Scotland
Parents: Father: JOHN JACK  Mother: JANET BEVERIDGE

[Gadget]

If it's any help, there are three male Rae baptisms in the 1800-1805 period in Polmont. All 1803 though.

27 March 1803, Alexander, s/o Andrew Rae and Agnes Aitken
11 August 1803 Thomas Livingstone, s/o James Rae and Elizabeth Anderson
11 December 1803, James, s/o Livingston Rae and Alison Johnstone


Gadget

[Gadget]

The James and Elizabeth look possible parents if naming conventions were followed.

James Rae  and Elizabeth Anderson had 4 children baptised in Polmont:

7 June 1795 Margaret
23 April 1797 John
28 Feb 1799 James
11 August 1803 Thomas Livingston

Gadget

[MonicaL]

Just looking at the James and Elizabeth combination! You will probably need to look for Peter's death cert on Scotlands People to confirm his parents' names.
Two possible marriages for a James Rae and Elizabeth. I've kept Glasgow in the frame simply because of the Census and children's births:

JAMES RAE  Marriages: Spouse:    ELISABETH MACKENZIE    
Marriage:  02 NOV 1802  Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland


....and in Stirling, a submitted entry which fits with the birth entry Gadget found for a Thomas in 1803:

JAMES RAE  Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH ANDERSON    
Marriage:  13 OCT 1789  Muiravonside, Stirling, Scotland


Monica

[Gadget]

I think the James/Elizabeth Anderson one seems to fit the pattern best.

I can't find any other bpts for children though either before 1795 or after 1803.

If so, James might have been Livingston's brother 

Gadget