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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 02:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Rhonda.

That lead to others. Have added Augusta into my previous list:

1871 KLICKE Auguste Bertha parentís Christian Gotthelf KLICKE and Johanne Ernestine STILLER Angaston 99/434
Marriage: 1888 156/370 KEIL Hermann to KLICHE Bertha Angaston
Death: 1963 955/2534 KEIL Auguste Bertha Carl Hermann KEIL [DH] Angaston
Burial: Krondorf Lutheran KEIL Auguste Bertha 92y 1964 and Krondorf Lutheran KEIL Carl Hermann 79y 1943
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Auguste-Bertha-Keil/11129199
Their son: https://billiongraves.com/grave/Bernhard-Hugo-Keil/11128540

Death 1900 272/458 KLICKE Marie Louise Christian Gottholf KLICKE (H) Norwood
West Terrace Cemetery: Section P3 Row 3 Site 100 Marie L KLICKE aged 46 18-10-1900


Donít know if this is connected to the family:

Marriage: 1855 22/600 FELLENBERG Karl Gottlieb to KLICKE Johanne Auguste Adelaide

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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 02:53 GMT (UK) »
South Australian Marriages
Groom: Christian Gotthilf KLICHE age 22 Father: Gottfried KLICHE
Bride: Johanne Ernestine STILLER age 22 Father: Johann Samuel STILLER
Date: 22 Oct 1868
Place: Lutheran Church Langmeil
District: Ang / 77/148

Groom: Christian Gotthilf KLICHE age 35 Widow Father: Gottfried KLICHE
Bride: Maria Martha NITSCHKE age 20 Carl Friedrich NITSCHKE
Date: 15 Feb 1882
Place: Ev Luth Trinity Church Rowland Flat
District: Bar / 130/642


Rhonda, these are the same chap, two marriages. His obit says he has 8 living children, I think it was.

The other one you have listed is son of the above, whose birth you located.

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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 03:07 GMT (UK) »
Rhonda can you find a marriage between these two, possibly Marie Louise, or combinations:

Christian Gotthilef KLICHE and Louise GARRAT

The son born 1892.

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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 03:14 GMT (UK) »
According to the Biographical Index SA the child Gotthilef Hugh born 28 Jun 1892 (father Christian Gotthilef KLICHE mother Louise GARRAT) was known as John Hugo (d. 1983).  And Louise GARRAT actually named as Marie Louise HENSCHKE nee GERHARD the 1st wife of Christian.
Marie Louise KLICKE d. 17 Oct 1900 at Eastwood aged 46
District Nor:  272/458


Then Florence JORDAN was the 2nd wife.  So John Hugo was Sylvia's half brother.

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ADDED: I found only the GERHARD/HENSCHKE marriage.


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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 03:27 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Rhonda.

Where did John Hugo die?

His motherís birth:

1853 4/147 GERHARD Maria Louise parentís Frederich Johann Christian GERHARD and Justine Wilhelmine KOLESKE Adelaide

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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 04:05 GMT (UK) »
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This man born 1870
Groom: Christian Gotthilf KLICHE age 33 Widow Christian Gotthilf KLICHE
Bride Florence Elizabeth JORDAN age 19 Father John Stephen JORDAN
Date: 9 Sep 1903
Place: Registry Office [Adelaide]
District: Ade / 216/951
Rhonda

I posted this marriage yesterday with Widower as status for the groom hence my comment that Jack was from the first marriage.  There were only two births registered to the above couple.

For Jessica :)  Hopefully this will make your KLICHE family history clearer. 

Biographical Index of South Australians Ė excellent resource for researching SA pioneers but the information is not always 100% accurate.  I usually try and check all facts where possible.

KLICHE J. Gottfried born 22 Dec 1799 Sawade, Silesia, Prussia and died 5 Jan 1896 Krondorf SA
Arrived 1841 on the SKJOLD
Occupation Butcher, Farmer
Lived Bethany, Krondorf, Eudunda, Point Pass
Religion Lutheran
Married  Anna Eliz nee PIETSCHKE born 14 Sep1808 Germany died 6 Sep 1900 Krondorf SA
Children 
Ja Dorothea HARTWIG c1833-1927,Ja Augte FELLENBERG c1835-1907, Ja Ernestine 1839-1841, twin sons 1841-1841, J. Ernst Gottlieb 1843-1897, Gotthielf Christian 1846-1906

KLICHE Gotthielf Christian
Parents J.Gottfried and Anna Eliz nee PIETSCHKE
Born 19 Apr 1846 Krondorf SA  Died 5 Mar 1906 Krondorf SA
Occupation Butcher, Dairy Farmer
Lived  Krondorf Religion Lutheran
Married 1/2 22 Oct 1868 Langmeil SA Je Ernestine nee STILLER Parents J. Saml and Je Caroline nee SCHRAPEL
Born 22 Oct 1846 Bethany SA Died 16 May1880 Krondorf SA
Children
Christian Gotthilf 1870-1946
Bertha KEIL 1871-1963
Lydia 1873-1873
Louise FALKENBERG 1875-1911
Cornelia LINDNER 1877-1976
Married 2/2  1882 Martha Maria nee NITSCHKE Born 13 May 1861 and died 15 Mar 1947 Krondorf SA
Children
Carl Bernard 1885-
Rudolph Theodor  1889-1944
Oswald Herbert 1894-1974
Gottham Walter  1896-1975
Oswald Herbt (1894-1974), Gottham Walter
(1896-1975) and son.

KLICHE Christian Gotthilf
Parents Gotthielf Christian and Je Ernestine nee STILLER
Born 10 Mar 1870 Krondorf SA   Died 26 Aug 1946 Payneham SA Buried Dudley Pk SA
0ccupation Farmer, Butcher, Greengrocer
Lived Krondorf, Sandy Creek, Walkerville, Payneham
Religion Lutheran
Married 1/2 Mrs Maria Louise *HENSCHKE nee GERHARD Parents Fried J. Christian and Justine
Whma nee GERHARD Born 11 May1853 Lobethal SA
Died Oct1900 Adelaide SA
Children Gotthieef Hugh (John Hugo) KLICKE(1892-1983)
Married 2/2 (Walkerville SA Florence Elks nee JORDAN
Born c1884 Died 29 Apr 1960 Payneham SA
Children Sylvia F.M. HOY 1906-, Merle WHILLANS, GRAY.

*First marriage
HENSCHKE Hermann  24 years  Status Single  Father Martin HENSCHKE
GERHARD Marie Louise  21 years  Status Single  Father Friedrich GERHARD
9 Apr 1875

At St Pauls, Lobethal  Nai A103/153

The KLICHE entries in BISA are contributed as the usual entries do not have quite so much detail.  Remember this information was compiled and published in 1988 so an enormous amount of research the old fashioned way...not internet ;)

You can research the BDM's yourself in South Australia at SA Genealogy who are located on Unley Rd and have online databases and they also hold the district registers. There may be more information at the Lutheran Archives in Adelaide.

http://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-databases.html
https://www.lca.org.au/departments/ministry-support/lutheran-archives/

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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 04:41 GMT (UK) »
Passenger list for the KLICHE family arriving SA in 1841

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/skjold1841.shtml


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Re: Arthur HOY - NSW
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 26 December 18 07:12 GMT (UK) »
Jessica I think you need to read all the posts on this thread including this one....

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Arthur Joseph Hoy, born in South Sheilds was my grand father. He did marry Sylvia Florence Maud Kliche and move to West Lakes South Australia from Sydney NSW. He worked on the Yelta TS, a steam Tug in Port Adelaide for many years as a stoker. He died on 21 Febuary 1986. He was survived by his wife Sylvia (died 26/6/1995) and two children, Barbara and David and 4 Grand children, Michael and Caroline, Yvette and Craig. He is buried in the Cheltenham Cemetery.  If you need any addition info please ask.

And your friend's information....

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Iím researching my partners family tree. Her name is Quana Sylvia Brown. Her mother Lyndall, brother David and sister Andrea. Her grandmother Catherine and brother unknown. Last names all Hoyís. German background.
Now Iíve been told that my partner gets her middle name from her great granny called Sylvia.

I think you friend's family need more research to make the link to the HOY's who emigrated from England to Sydney and then West Lakes, Adelaide.  They were definitely not German.  There were other HOY families in South Australia.
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