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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #18 on: Friday 24 November 06 17:09 GMT (UK) »
It's really only Margaret Blain's DC outstanding for that generation. William's mother Janet Pollock looks to have died pre 1855. No trace as yet on anything for Margaret Blain's own family other than the possibility that Letitia was her sister.

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 November 06 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear  :(

I might just have found a possible death for poor Margaret:

July 30 1874 821 - 259

Southern Counties Asylum, Dumfries

Margaret Blair Lamond, aged 60, married to ---- Lamont,
Right hemiplegia with apoplexia, 2 months; bedsores, 1 month; insanity. Informant - M Cunningham, attendant, present at death.

No parents' names given - obviously she had a stroke at some stage  :'(


Gadget  :( :( :(



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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #20 on: Friday 24 November 06 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Here are the 1861 and 1871 census details:

1861 - Minnigaff  876-3-7

William Lamont, 50, labourer, b. Minnigaff
Elizabeth, d, 18, b. Minnigaff
William, 12, b. Minnigaff

1871 - Minnigaff  876 - 5 - 2

Dromcroft

William, 60, wood forester's assistant, b. Minnigaff
Margaret, 56, b. Old Luce
Elizabeth, d, 30, outdoor worker, b. Minnigaff
William, grdson, 7, b. Minnigaff
Robert, grdson, 5, b. Minnigaff
Peter, grdson, 3, b. Minnigaff
Tom, grdson, 7 mths, b. Minnigaff


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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #21 on: Friday 24 November 06 18:08 GMT (UK) »
Well done Gadget, that looks like it could be her entry. Lack of info is a BIG problem for verifying her parents  :'(


How are you getting her entry to come up on SP. I'd been searching for a Ma*r*/L*m*n*/bl* and getting nothing. Even putting in the details that you have found, I still get nothing on SP. Odd.
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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #22 on: Friday 24 November 06 18:15 GMT (UK) »
From the 1871 list of grandchildren, all look to be illegitimate births:

William, grdson, 7, b. Minnigaff.........Elizabeth's
Robert, grdson, 5, b. Minnigaff..........Letitia's
Peter, grdson, 3, b. Minnigaff............Letitia's
Tom, grdson, 7 mths, b. Minnigaff.....Elizabeth's

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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #23 on: Friday 24 November 06 18:18 GMT (UK) »


Well done Gadget, that looks like it could be her entry. Lack of info is a BIG problem for verifying her parents  :'(


How are you getting her entry to come up on SP. I'd been searching for a Ma*r*/L*m*n*/bl* and getting nothing. Even putting in the details that you have found, I still get nothing on SP. Odd.

Goodness knows, Monica  ::) ::) ::)

I went through my previous searches:
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you searched for: Surname: "LAMONT"; Use Soundex: On; Forename: "M**"; Sex: "Both"; Year From: 1874; Year To: 1881; Birth Year: 1815; Birth Year Range: 10

I have looked at bpts for Mar* Bla* 1810 - 1820 on the IGI. I think that's how I found a Margaret Blair.

Gadget  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 25 November 06 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Monica and Gadget,

I can't thank you enough for all your help. I am really grateful. I now have so much to digest!!

Firstly, Gadget, I'm so pleased that you have the all clear healthwise. That is good news and must be a huge relief for you.

I feel so guilty you two have been busy working on my behalf, and I've been out and about, shopping etc. I have been looking for genealogy books and software, so I suppose that is not so bad! ;D

Poor Margaret in an asylum - and she died a couple of months after William! Quite sad. I imagine Blain and Blair would be almost interchangable surnames at that time. Even when written the n can look like an r.

I am quite interested in the illegitimate births. Do these children only have Letitia/Elizabeth named as mother with no father named? I'm glad they're not the direct line I'm tracing. That would make the search even more difficult.

How can I ever find Margaret's parents? I thought it MIGHT be easier to trace (possible) sister Letitia, but that doesn't seem to be so.

Monica and Gadget, you are both wonderful! I really value your assistance, generosity and advice.

Thank you.

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« Reply #25 on: Saturday 25 November 06 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ruskie

You out shopping and we slaving over hot computers  :o :o :o

I've been trying to search for letitia/Letisha's death. There must be a certificate somewhere. So far I've done 1881 - 1900 for Bl* in Minnigaff and then KKD also Wigtown area and Dumfries. It might be that she has been very badly transcribed or her name was not known (very sad if this is the case).

Have you checked for her on the 1841, 61 and 71? It might be worth trying to build a timeline for her.

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Re: Kirkcudbright/Wigtown marriage lookup
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 25 November 06 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

Yup, weekends are horrible here - no peace and quiet for researching - lots of interruptions - I just can't concentrate. Weekdays are lovely - kids at school, other half at work and plenty of time.

No I haven't got Letitia other than in the 51 and what you and Monica have found. I only discovered this whole family on Thursday. I do feel quite sorry for them actually - they must have had it tough. But in a lovely part of the world.

I will top up my Scotland's people credits on Monday and try to find Letitia in more census. I did suspect her name may have been mistranscribed. I couldn't read it on the 51.

Thanks again Gadget - you're a star!