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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #198 on: Sunday 08 November 20 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Just for your information....there are 2 other John Sutherland's in Latheron Parish Caithness in the 1841 census, who are also Army Pensioners....

1841 census - Nottingham, Latheron, Caithness

John Sutherland    55yrs Army P(ensioner) Born Scotland
Elizabeth Sutherland    30yrs Born Scotland
Margaret Sutherland    15yrs Born Caithness
James Sutherland    10yrs Born Caithness
William Sutherland    8yrs Born Caithness
John Sutherland    5yrs Born Caithness
N K    2 Weeks Born Caithness

1841 census - Mountpleasant, Latheron, Caithness

John Sutherland    55yrs Army P(ensioner) Born Caithness
Ann Sutherland            35yrs Born Caithness
George Sutherland    8yrs Born Caithness
Ann Sutherland            6yrs Born Caithness

So it is equally possible that either of these men died in 1849  :-\

Were there any other details on the Chelsea Pensioner record?

Jenny
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #199 on: Sunday 08 November 20 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Actually, perhaps not...they both seem to still be there in the 1851 census...ages are a bit out though  ;)

1851 census - Ashbeg, Latheron, Caithness

John Sutherland Head 57yrs Chelsea Pensioner b. Kildonan, Sutherland
Elizabeth Sutherland Wife 43yrs b. Fearn, Ross
Margaret Sutherland Dau 25yrs House Servant b. Latheron, Caithness
William Sutherland Son 18yrs Ag Lab b. Latheron, Caithness
John C Sutherland Son 15yrs Scholar b. Latheron, Caithness
Catherine M Sutherland Dau 9yrs Scholar b. Latheron, Caithness
Janet Sutherland Dau 6yrs b. Latheron, Caithness
Hector H Sutherland Son 3yrs b. Latheron, Caithness
Elizabeth Sutherland Dau 4mths b. Latheron, Caithness

1851 census - Village Road, Lybster, Latheron, Caithness

John Sutherland Head 70yrs Chelsea Pensioner b. Kildonnan, Sutherland
Christian Mackenzie Wife 57yrs Spinster b. Rogart, Sutherland (not sure what is going on here?)
George Sutherland Son 19yrs Journeyman Shoemaker b. Halkirk, Caithness
George Sinclair Lodger 23yrs Journeyman Mason b. Thurso, Caithness

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #200 on: Sunday 08 November 20 11:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenny, ok, bugger on the marriage cert... have used all my credits will have to wait a while now.  Thanks for the info on John Sutherland will look more into that.  Cheers Margaret


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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #201 on: Sunday 08 November 20 20:55 GMT (UK) »
no worries, easily done....as I've mentioned before Sutherlands are thick in these parts ;)

FYI there are also other John Sutherland Chelsea pensioners/Army pensioners that are born in Latheron but living elsewhere on the census returns...did the pensioner you found that died in 1849 live in Latheron or elsewhere? Would be great to have the details so that we can try and prove or discount it.

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #202 on: Monday 16 November 20 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
I am currently trying to track down some of my ancestors.
 
My 3rd great-grandfather is Peter Sutherland, born in Berriedale, Latheron in 1816. He was married to Jane Murray in 1855 ('in the manner of the Free Church of Scotland'). He was a farm-owner and later a maltser. He died in Putleneytown, Caithness, Scotland in 1877.
 
I am currently finding it difficult to find information about his parents.
 
From the death and marriage certificate of Peter Sutherland: I know that his parents are John Sutherland and Catherine Sutherland (maternal name: Sutherland). I know John Sutherland was a farmer/fisherman. I also know that the parents were both dead before the end of 1855.
 
I think I found a 1841 census entry listing John Sutherland and Catherine Sutherland living together with their son Peter Sutherland in Parkside, Latheron. However there is a 35 year age gap between the John Sutherland (90 years old) and Catherine Sutherland (55 years old) listed in this record and also a 65 year gap between John Sutherland (90 years old) and his potential son Peter Sutherland (25 years old, my great grand-grandfather). There is also a Catherine Bain listed in the census record, however I know she is not the mother of Peter, given she died after 1855, although she too was married to a John Sutherland (listed as a shoemaker in Catherine Bain's death certificate).
 
I am wondering if anyone knows anything that can point me into the right direction, since I am currently stuck in my research. In particular I would like to know who the parents of John Sutherland and Catherine Sutherland are, so I can continue to expand my family tree.