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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #72 on: Thursday 26 July 07 13:52 BST (UK) »
I'm not as obsessed as you until I have 11,000 people on my tree. :P I'm sure I will appreciate it very very much. :)
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #73 on: Thursday 26 July 07 14:31 BST (UK) »
12014.......and counting  ;D

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #74 on: Thursday 26 July 07 21:51 BST (UK) »
Looks like I'm getting the bus, I've never got the bus to Edinburgh before so I don't know where the station is in relation to Waverley or New Register House...

Help. :P
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Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #75 on: Friday 27 July 07 09:06 BST (UK) »
I haven't read the whole thread, but maybe this might be of some interest -

http://www.caithness.org/atoz/badbea/index.htm

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #76 on: Friday 27 July 07 19:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info James  ;)

And Bryce if you look really closely at the 4th image of the Badbea Memorial Inscription, you might see "Angus Sutherland, Weaver" who I do believe is your ggg grandfather  ;D

You'll have to have a closer look when you visit!

Jenny

P.S Hope you had fun at NRH today and I'll e-mail all the info like I promised as soon as I sort it all out!
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 07 August 07 17:21 BST (UK) »
Phew, took a while to sort out, and two weeks later I've discovered a bit of a conundrum!

Could just be me being silly and not noticing something, or perhaps something written down incorrectly (by me or on the original record).

Ann Sutherland, daughter of Niel Sutherland and Janet Campbell. We couldn't find her birth/baptizm in the OPRs. Remember she married Charles Mackay, and had at least 4 children? The fact she married Charles in 1839 should have rang some alarm bells, but no unfortunately they didn't. Assuming Niel's first wife, Janet Bain, died c.1824, and Ann Sutherland was born c.1825, she'd have been 14 when she got married, and that seems a little odd! However, on her death certificate it said she was 89 when she died, in 1905. That means she was born c.1816!

Here's my theory:
The informant of Ann Sutherland's death was her daughter, Margaret Robertson. When asked who Ann's parents were, she probably only knew Janet Campbell, since Janet Bain died 10-15 years before Margaret was born. So she probably thought her granny was Janet Campbell, bless her. Just means I've got to change my tree a bit now. :P Does this sound like it was the case?
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Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 07 August 07 17:30 BST (UK) »
familysearch.org has an Ann Sutherland born 1815 in Latheron, father Niel Sutherland, no mother, just like the rest of his children. ::)
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Kinnes, Ostler (and all variations!!)

Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 07 August 07 19:12 BST (UK) »
Hey Bryce,

Yep I agree completely, she is the daughter of Janet Bain and Neil Sutherland, with all your interesting family (aka Sutherland) connections up there it is a wonder that anyone knew who they were and weren't related to  :P

Have you got it all sorted then?

Jenny

PS When do you head up north?
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 07 August 07 19:43 BST (UK) »
Just odd I can't find births and deaths for most of them, despite a lot being on familysearch. ::)

I leave on Monday morning. :)
All countries/counties
Kinnes, Ostler (and all variations!!)

Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon