James Dawes, was he a convict?

[Maleny Genealogy Group]

Hi Everyone,
 This is my first posting.
I was hoping that a few minds might be able to sort out all these James Dawes.

Is James Dawes, (born Norfolk UK) who married Mary Ann Bottom, (born Lincolnshire UK)at Sutton Forest, New South Wales, Australia, in April, 1851, the same James Dawes who arrived as a convict in Sydney, Australia, on  the "Asia 9" in 1832?
I will add that on the Marriage entry it said he was  a Free Immigrant.
Could he get away with lying? if he was a freed convict.

Thanks for reading.
Sam

[Cazay]

Welcome   

I often wonder about that myself, the lies, handed down through families, then you find out the TRUTH

Is that all you know about James Dawes, the convict?  You would have to look at the 1837 convict muster and find where he was and his age etc.

The shipping indents would also have information on him to compare

I notice that he received a Ticket of Leave Passport in 1845 on recommendation of the Campbelltown  Bench.  Campbelltown is heading down that way towards Sutton Forest, Braidwood, Goulburn.  SAGS has his district as Norwich Norfolk and left his native place unknown, this was for his ticket of leave.

Cazay

[Maleny Genealogy Group]

Hello Cazay....... I'm not sure if I'm still going round in circles here, but I sent a message a short while ago about my mysterious GGrandfather James Dawes....Did you receive it???

[Cazay]

Hi Sam

With regard to the information in your first post, do you know how old the convict James Dawes is compared to your James Dawes?

Cazay

[EDO]

Hello Members,

This may help [or, even confuse].

Apprehended convict absconders in New South Wales 1831,
as recorded in Sydney newspapers.

Ref. 08    DAWES      James      "Minerva"

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/scons31e.htm
jfawcett[at]austarnet.com.au     Please replace [at] with @
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1813  The first local medical student, James Dawes, was apprenticed to William Redfern. Dawes died the following year.
http://www.aams.org.au/contents.php?subdir=library/history/funding_prof_med_au/&filename=1788to1900

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Regards

EDO

[CuriousDiana]

Have a look at www.cooma.nsw.gov.au/monaropioneers/bottom/bottom-w.htm
for the answer.
Mary Ann Bottom, according to Monaro Pioneers married James Dawes 21.4.1851 in Church of England, Sutton Forest, NSW. He was son of Charles Dawes and Catherine. He was b. abt. 1804 in England, died 31.12.1877 in Burly Jacky, Cowra, NSW, buried 1.1.1878 in Burly Jacky. Mary Ann later married Alfred Green 21.8.1886.
According to info from Samuel Dawes, James Dawes was a convict, arr Port Jackson on "Asia 1" on 13.2.1832. He had a transportation for life sentence, but received a pardon in 1847.  See the website for detail.

[Maleny Genealogy Group]

Hello....Cazay..

Been out of circulation for a couple of days.... The silly season you know... plus  It is supposed to be our summer here, but it's not like that all the time... Had two good thunderstorms in the last two days, and today have been out to someone's 60th birthday party.  It's windy and wet.  Have not yet got all my James Dawes convict info together for you... Am getting a completely new computer system some time this week.... More fun and games with that... so stick with me please..

Sam