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1901 Petworth Workhouse
« on: Friday 15 December 06 14:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Is it possible to look up Mary Ann Taylor and her daughter in the Petworth workhouse 1901?  Your help is very much appreciated.   
Sincerely,
Jennifer

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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #1 on: Friday 15 December 06 16:50 GMT (UK) »
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Welcome to rootschat.   Can you give any more information?  A search for Mary Ann Taylor and Petworth in 1901 is not successful.   Have you found her in the index?   Can you give the reference?  What is her daughter called?
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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 December 06 00:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrea,
I did send for the following certificates

Death certificate of my great grandmother is as follows
1901 Registration District Petworth sub district of Petworth Southern
Coloumns484  When and where died Twelfth February 1901
Workhouse Petworth Mary Ann Taylor Female age 33 years Wife of George Taylor farm labourer Petworth Signature discription Master Workhouse Petworth When Registered February 1901.
I also sent for information National Archives Reference
RG Number Series Piece Folio Page Schedule Number
RG 12  954  25  1174
Address Petworth Workhouse
Town or Village of Hamlet Petworth
Parliamentary Borough of Division Horsham
Ecclesiastical Parish   Petworth St Mary
Adminstrative County    West Sussex
County Borough, Municipal Borough of Urban District
Ward of Municipal Borough of Urban District
It showed
George Taylor (Grandads Brother)
Relation to head of the Family   Imate
Condition as to Marriage single
Sex M
Age Last Birthday 11
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born          Sussex Graffham
Language
Infirmity

Albert Taylor ( my grandad)
Relation to Head of Family   Imate
Condition as to Marriage   Single
Sex   M
Age Last Birthday  9
Profession or Occupatio
Employment Status
Where Born    Sussex Minsted
Language
Infirmity

When I read about Workhouses it states that the boys and men were in one area and the women and girls are in another area in the workhouses.  I did ask my mom about her Aunt and she called her Auntie Anne.  I tried to go on line to census looking for Ann Taylor or Anne Taylor or Mary Ann Taylor without success.  Apparently she was younger than my grandad who was born Dec 12 1891 but registered in 1892.
I do hope this information is what you need.  Thank you so much for replying to my inquiry.  All my life I thought my grandad and his siblings were put into a orphanage but when I received my great grandmothers death certificate I realized she was in the Petworth Workhouse as well with her three children.   Thank you again for helping me.
Most Sincerely
Jennifer


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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 December 06 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Albert

I looked in the 1901 census and yes, George aged 11 and Albert aged 9 are definitely listed in the Workhouse at Petworth.

Mary Ann Taylor is not listed because the census was taken on the night of 31st March 1901 and according to the death certificate she died on 12th Feb 1901.

Unfortunately there are no young females with the surname Taylor listed as resident in the workhouse - do you have any idea as to her christian name of the daughter of Mary Ann?

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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 December 06 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris,
I dont know Mary Ann Taylors daughters christian name.
Mom knew her only as Auntie Ann but she could have used her middle name.  I was hoping to find them listed in the workhouse with Albert and George Taylor.  Apparently she was younger than my Grandad Albert Taylor and it makes me wonder if she would have been in another location .

You were saying that the records come out in March and Mary Ann died in February 1901 so does that mean that George and Albert Taylor were in the workhouse prior to their mom if it doesnt show Mary Ann and her daughter being listed with them?   Thank you for all your help with understanding what happened  .   Your site is wonderful.
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Jennifer

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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 December 06 01:42 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
Is it possible to look up Mary Ann Taylor and her daughter in the Petworth workhouse 1901?  Your help is very much appreciated.   
Sincerely,
Jennifer

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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 December 06 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am not quite sure what your last post means.  As Chris explained earlier Mary Ann died before the census was taken so there is no way she will be on it.   It may mean the boys went into the workhouse with her and then she died.  Possibly the daughter went to relatives.  Without knowing her name it is difficult to trace her.   You could try looking for all female Taylor births in that area and write to the local register office asking them to look for one who is a daughter of George and Mary Ann.   When did George die?   That might add to the picture.
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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 December 06 09:00 GMT (UK) »
The records for Petworth workhouse are at West Sussex Record Office.

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Petworth/Petworth.shtml

http://www.westsussex.gov.uk/ccm/navigation/libraries-and-archives/record-office/

The record office should be able to tell you when different members of the family arrived in the workhouse and when they left. All that you know from the census is that on the night of March 31st 1901 the two boys were in the workhouse. The census can't tell you how long before that night they were in the workhouse or how long after March 31st. Their mother was already dead by March 31st. The children may have entered the workhouse after the death of their mother (workhouses were the local infirmaries where medical treatment was available. Many of them went onto to become National Health Hospitals in 1947) or went in with her or before her, if she was ailing and unable to look after them. They may have entered the workhouse for different periods of time as George was or was not able to look after them - you can't know without researching the workhouse records which might also be able to supply you with George and Mary Ann's daughter's name and age, if she went into the workhouse at any point.

George Taylor the father was living in Petworth in 1901.

RG13 954 folio 9
Moor Petworth  Sussex  
George Taylor  46  Didling, Sussex, Servant Widower Cattleman on Farm

1891 census RG12 849 folio 108
Minstead Cottages Stedham  Sussex  
George Taylor 37 Didling, Sussex, Head Married Employed as cowman
Mary Ann Taylor 26 Hackney Rd, London,  Wife  Married  
William G Taylor  2 Graffham, Sussex,  Son  

Births Dec 1888  
TAYLOR  William George    Midhurst  2b 396

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Valda
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Re: 1901 Petworth Workhouse
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 30 December 06 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Valda,
a wee note to thank you for writing the information  about the Taylor Family in Petworth.  I have been searching where George Taylor resided after my great grandmother passed away in the Petworth workhouse.  Your information helped me greatly and is much appreciated and heartfelt.
Most Sincerely,
Jennifer