Martins of Stithians

[hwlambert]

Does anyone have a copy of the book "Martin Family of Stithians" by Edward Martin and could do a look up for me.
 
Can anyone help me with some details of the family of Catherine (Caroline) Martin b1826 who married Nicholas Dunstan in 1847.  They emigrated to Australia in 1855.
 
I have no information on Catherine back through her side other than her father was John and mother Catherine and believe that some of her brothers were farmers and some of them emigrated before she did.
 
Also Nicholas Dunstan's mother Jenefer was also a Martin, she married Henry Dunstan, can anything be found about them.


Thanks
Heather

[meggles]

Hi Heather - I found another connection a better one.
Having another look I see that my great great great grandfather Michael Martin who married his cousin Jane Martin, well Jane and your catherine are sisters.
I will try not to confuse you  here -

John Martin Married Catherine Martin (these are Catherine's parents, it seems the martin family like to marry their cousins)

Info I have on John Martin
B.C 1800 in St Agnes (? error for St. Gluvias)
Bap. 18 Jan 1801 at Stithians.
Miner of Ponsanooth 1820
Labourer of ST. gluvias 1821
Miner of St. Gluvias 1822
Powder-maker of St Gluvias 1824
Gunpowder manufacturer of St Gluvias 1825 and 1828
Miner of St gluvias 1837
Lavourer of Laity Moor in St gluvias, aged 40, 1841
Copper-miner of Tregost in Stithians, aged 51, 1851
Illiterate.

Info I have on his wife Catherine Martin
Daughter of Henry Martin,(who was a labourer of st Gluvias) and mother was Catherine Thomas
Bap 24 sep 1794 at Stithians
Married John Martin 8 Aug 1819 at Perranarworthal
Died 2 Aug 1854
Bur. at Stithians
Illiterate

Children of John Martin and Catherine Martin

James Martin Bap 23 Mar 1820 at Perranarworthal (Labourer)

Edward Martin - Bap 24 Mar 1822 at Perranarworthal

Elizabeth Martin - Bap 10 April 1825 at St Gluvias married Charles Williamson, cordwainer of penryn, mar 29 feb 1852

Catherine Martin  - Bap 3 June 1827 at St . Gluvias Married Nicholas Dunstan

Jane Martin - Bap 5 oct 1828 at St Gluvias married Michael Martin miner of Stithains 11 Aug 1849 and Emigrated to australia in1851 (This is my line)

Ann Martin bap 26 mar 1837 at St Gluvias married thomas Knuckey, miner of Crellow in Stithians mar 29 dec 1849 in stithians

Mary Martin bap 26 mar 1837 at St Gluvias, emigrated to Australia at the age of 19 in 1856, she was a servant in Ballarat, she married Thomas Prish, miiner of Ballarat.  They married on the 16th aug 1856 at ballarat (he died 1912 aged 79 at oakleigh in Victoria.

John Martin bap 2 april 1821 at St gluvias. (Powder maker) emigrated to australia on the ship the 'Pakenham' arrived at adelaide, SA 23 mar 1849. died 21 March 1896, aged 76 at Bridge Road Richmond Meilbourne, Victoria, he was literate.
married first Ann (nanny) weeks 25 dec 1845 at St gluvias, she died 5 dec 1873 at Scotchmans lead, Bunninyong Mine, Ballarat
then married Margaret Morton, widow of mount pleasant in Ballarat, she had 10 children by her 1st husband.
they married 3 amr 1891 by lic, at Ballarat.
They moved to Western australia and she died 11 oct 1931 at Leederville, bur, karrakakatta Cemetery

William Martin - bap 12 sep 1824 at St gluvias. - Emigrated to Australia 1848 - first to South australia for 4 years and then to Victoria.  Died  abte 1875 at Avoca in Victoria
He married Jane (or fanny) possibly died in Austrlaia, she had 3 children who died young. she died about 1852
2nd marriage to Margery Penhallurick on the 30 april, 1856 at Ballarat, Victoria.
She remar. 1 nov 1875 at Avoca in Victoria, John Nichols Simmons (a cornishman form camborne) by whom she had a son - John Charles Belman simmons B 5 nov 1877.

Heather I could go on and on, I can follow both lines of John martin and catherine martin back.
If you want this let me know ok.
I have a full history on my martin family  and most brothers and sisters so let me know else you  need and I will forward it on
Megan

[hwlambert]

Thanks,
Lots to read and take in.

Cheers,
Heather

[hwlambert]

Hi meggles,
Do you have any more information regarding my Catherines father John.  I would like to know who his parents were and if he had any siblings. 

It is all starting to make sense to me now.  If you see the book anywhere for sale could you please let me know, like you I would like to purchase a copy.

Also is there any connection to my Nicholas Dunstans mother Jenefer Martin b.c1800?

Thanks,
Heather

[meggles]

Hi Heather,

John Martin's parents are -

father - Edmund (Edward) Martin
Bap 4 May 1777 at Perranarworthal
He wasa Husbandman of Ponsanooth 1816
Literate

mother - Ann Davies
literate
Married 13 Aug 1798 at St. Gluvias

Children -

James Martin Bap 19 Dec 1902 - Stithians
Thomasin Martin Bap 29 april 1804 at Perranarworthal
Ann Martin - Bap 26 Jan 1906 Stithians
Elizabeth Martin Bap 11 Dec 1807 at St Gluvias
Edward Martin - Bap 13 Aug 1809 at St Gluvias
William Martin - Bap 14 Jan 1816 at Stithians
John Martin  - Bap 18 Jan 1801 at Stithains - Your line

Edmund (edward) Martin's parents

Father - James Martin of St Gluvias
Bap 4  April 1742 at Stithians
Bur - 4 may 1833, aged 92 at stithians
Literate

Mother - Thomasen (Tamson) Odger
Mar 12 May 1765 at Stithians
bur 24 June 1803 at stithians
Illiterate

11 Children of this couple

Elizabeth - Bap 17 nov 1765 and bur 2 june 1769 - Stithians
Catherin - Bap 17 May 1767, at stithians
James - Bap 11 June 1769 and bur 4 feb 1771 at stithians
John - bap 23 dec 1770 at stithains bur 26 mar 1791 at stithians
James - bap 28 feb 1773 at stithians, bur 24 mar 1838 aged 66 stithians
Catharine - bap 8 oct 1775 and bur 22 feb 1779 at stithians
Catharine - bap 30 july 1780 and bur 9 april 1781 at stithains
Honny (honne) bap 10 Mar 1782 at stithains
Catherine bap 25 July 1784 at stithians
Edmund (edward) amrtin bap 4 may 1777 - Your  line
William bap 23 aug 1778 at stithians - farm labourer of ponsanooth, married Joanna provis 1802 at St gluvias.

I have no record of your Nicholas Dunstans mother - Jenefer Martin b. c1800,
I have a Jenefer martin bap 1 feb 1772 in stithians who married a william Dunstan in 1793 at Stithians. and another 18 Dunstans of diffrent names that have married a martin in Stithians.

I will keep a look out for the book for you but I know of some people that have been searching for about 6 years for it.
Alot of people of written to Edward Martin who wrote the book to see if he would do another reprint of it - but he has put alot of other books together such as 'families of Stithians' and at this stage has no time but hopefully in the future.
I am more than happy to give you what ever information I can, so just keep sending me message's for look ups and I will reply.

Hope your New years eve was a good one.

Megan

[hwlambert]

Thanks so much for this Megan.  Thanks for the offer, I dont like to bother anyone but Im sure I will have more questions in the near future.

Cheers
Heather

[Mair]

Megan,

With your indepth knowledge of the Martin family can you ascertain if the following have a link - its a bit too confuddling for me!

Ann Martin bc 1828 father James as noted on her marriage cert in Aug 1852 to a John Barnicoat in Falmouth. James was a labourer and from later census records I have her birth parish as St Gluvias.  I think I have her on the 1841 census thus:-

LAITY MOOR
James Martin  30   Labourer In county
Mary Martin    30
Ann                12
James            10
Elizabeth         9
William             7
Sarah              5
Jane                3
Martha            1

I have been unable to trace with certainty her line further back due to the prevelence of the name(s) involved.  In the midst of Dunstan and other Martin's noted now!

Any assistance or information you could offer would be appreciated.

Many thanks


Jude

[meggles]

Hi Jude,
I am at work at the moment but when I get home I will look at my file and if I have any information I will sent it on to you.
Ciao Megan

[meggles]

Hi Jude,
I have 6 Ann's in my file born between 1828-1830, but only one of these have James as a father and that is the Ann that you have above in the 1841 census.

This is the details  I have on this family -

James Martin of St Gluvias
Born C.1811
Sojourner in Perranarworthal 1828
Miner of Perranwhark 1829
Labourer of St Gluvias 1834
Agricultural Labourer of Laity Moor in St Gluvias, Aged 30 1841
Illiterate

James Married Mary Ann Martin
Daughter of Richard Martin, Powder Maker of St Gluvias and Mother Elizabeth Nicholas
Bap 29 Dec 1811 at St Gluvias
Sojourner, Mar 13 Apr 1828 at Perranarworthal (witnesses Thomas Edwards and Ralph Stephens)
Aged 30, 1841
Illiterate

Children -
Ann Bap 29 Mar 1829 at Perranarworthal
Aged 12, 1841

Elizabeth Born C 1832
Aged 9, 1841

Sarah Born C 1836, Aged 5

Jane Born C 1840 aged 1 1841

James Born C1831, aged 10 1841
literate
Agricultural labourer at the age of 23
Emigrated to Australia on the 'Geelong', arrived 11 aug 1854,
Died 1877, aged 47, in Victoria
married Sarah Barnes, daughter of John Barnes (rope maker of Penryn)
married on the 4 feb 1854 at St Gluvias,  Emigrated to Australia with an infant.

William Bap 3 oct 1834 at St gluvias aged 7 1841

Martha born C 1840, aged 1 1841

I hope this is helpful to you, I guess a way of proving that this is your ann is to get here Bap. parish record which would have her mothers name on it, and if it is Mary Martin then your set.

I have more info on the lines back from both James Martin and Mary Ann Martin so let me know if you are happy that this is your family and I will  then pass on the next generation's back.

I am going on holidays for one month at the end of this week, so if I don't respond this is why.

Kind Regards
Megan