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Offline pipkim

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Can someone please help decipher this!!
« on: Sunday 07 January 07 10:41 GMT (UK) »
(This is from the 1871 census)
I know this man is a jeweller from a later census return.
He also claims he is born London in the 1891 census, although in 1881 he says born Birmingham.

Please can anyone decipher the place his was supposed to be born in this 1871 census and is the occupation Jeweller?

Many Thanks
Pipkim  ???

He's another one who has been hiding!!! ::)

Edited: Sorry image was to big, hope this one worked
Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

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Re: Can someone please help decipher this!!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 January 07 10:42 GMT (UK) »
looks like Warwick, Birmingham to me  :)

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Re: Can someone please help decipher this!!
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 January 07 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gadget, do you think that is what is said under the line?

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Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

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Re: Can someone please help decipher this!!
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 07 January 07 10:48 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Gadget.......dee
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Can someone please help decipher this!!
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 07 January 07 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gadget, do you think that is what is said under the line?

Pipkim

Hi Pipkin

It looks as if a mess was made of the whole entry. If you notice, jeweller has been written in in place of something scored out. Then under where born there was originally something, London which has been scored out and Warwick Birmingham written in its place. I'm sure it refers to that top line - the rest are -dos- but for the life of me I don't understand what N.K followed by 'do' means unless it's Birmingham for them all  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: Can someone please help decipher this!!
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 07 January 07 11:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget,

In 1891 he is down as born London and his family are all Warwickshire, Birmingham, but in 1881 he is down as Birmingham (may be because of ease). I wonder is N.K. is Not Known and was the ennumerator giving up and put Birmingham for the rest. If that makes sense!

I'm waiting eagerly for his sons birth certificate, which I'm hoping will give me the sons mothers maiden name and then I can pinpoint his marriage. But if he ends up coming from London, I fear I may loose him with a name like Baily/Bailey - it's almost as bad as Smith, I'm leaving those for another time.
Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

Census information is Crown Copyright, from National Archives

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 07 January 07 11:24 GMT (UK) »
I still think that Birmingham refers to his entry, Pipkin  :)

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Re: Can someone please help decipher this!!
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 07 January 07 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Gadget, I'll work with that, hopefuly that will make the search easier.

Cheers

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Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

Census information is Crown Copyright, from National Archives

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Re: Can someone please help decipher this!!
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 January 07 11:40 GMT (UK) »
To me it looks like Wallend in London and then the ditto in the next line was scored out and replaced with Birmingham for the birthplaces of all of the others