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Battery Sergeant-Major?
« on: Monday 22 January 07 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Would be grateful if someone could just confirm for me the rank of the seated chap in this photo.
Both Battery Sergeant-Major and Battery Quartermaster-Sergeant have been suggested to me, and I can't decide which!

Many thanks,
Neil

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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 January 07 16:39 GMT (UK) »
I go with Battery Sgt. Major.

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COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
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WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 January 07 18:03 GMT (UK) »
I go with Battery Sgt. Major.

I think it's the crown that clinches it, doesn't it ???

Wonderful photo neil!!!

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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 January 07 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks folks,
That's confirmed what I thought. It's always good to get a second (and a third) opinion though!
Somebody else muddied the waters by insisting he was a quartermaster sergeant. I'll go with my instincts in future.

 ;D

Neil
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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 January 07 00:06 GMT (UK) »
I would go for BQMS. what date is the photo as the badge is Gun single pointing forward.

Gun, Single, Master Gunner & all senior NCO's

Appt(MGnr) below rank badges 1902 to date both lower arms.

Note SNCO's
SNCO's above rank chevrons.

Master Gunner would be a Warrant Officer not SNCO

The single gun has long been worn by all full sergeants & staff/sergeants of the R.A. above their rank chevrons and has no significance regarding their trade or proficiency in matters of gunnery.

So i would go for BQMS

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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Monsstar (I think!  ;D)

Still some difference of opinion then.
I'll have to consult some books at the library.

Neil
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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 14:32 GMT (UK) »
neil,i would go along with roy [monsstar]hes a long serving senior NCO himself,he knows his stuff,mack
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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 January 07 17:36 GMT (UK) »
You need the date of the photo, if before Feb 1915 he could be BSM RA or BQMS, after Feb 1915 BQMS. Do you know his name(Kew MIC).

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Re: Battery Sergeant-Major?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 December 15 07:21 GMT (UK) »
 :'(  Sorry folks, but he's a staff sergeant RA. Sergeant-majors stopped wearing stripes after about 1881, and even then they had four stripes, not three!  As a BSM, I should know!