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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 25 January 07 10:22 GMT (UK) »
YES....i think thats her too !!!!!

I sent posting same time lol

Thank you !!
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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 25 January 07 10:26 GMT (UK) »
I actually found her in 1871 by putting in just the name Fanny with parents Samuel and Emma.

And the one called Perry in Camberwell looked promising!!!

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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 25 January 07 10:41 GMT (UK) »
What a perfect family  ;D they are still at 11 Atwell Road in 1891 too.

Dad Samuel now 64 and a watchman at the port b Southwark
Wife Emma 60 b Tendring Essex
Dau Alice M  16 dressmakers apprentice b Peckham.

RG1/476 Folio 76 Page 36

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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 25 January 07 12:53 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ragna,

Have found the Lunatic Asylum on
  http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Use the Gazeteer, choose Wiltshire and go to Devizes. The Asylum is below Wick Green.
You will see that there is a small cemetery on the same land.

I also found a discussion site which says that the buildings being used for a psych hospital as recently as 2001 have been demolished. There were apparently pictures to accompany the discussion at some point but they no longer exist.

I see that there was also a large work house complex in the town. Times were tough in that part of the country.

Wiltshire has a very competent historian who will go the extra mile to answer questions put to him. Can be found at,
       http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/community/getcom.php?id=11

Good luck with your search,

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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 25 January 07 13:46 GMT (UK) »
I just have to say that Rootschatters are fabulous!

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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 25 January 07 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone !!!

Elizabeth that map site will be invaluable thank you.

I agree with you Josephine...what a fantastic bunch of people on here.

I can quite honestly say that I have moved further in the past few days than I have in weeks thanks to the lovely people on here.

I hope that once I get more experienced that I too can help others.

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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #33 on: Friday 26 January 07 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Carol — you are brilliant! Well done for your detective work.
I looked sideways on the 1871 and 81 for Fanny's addresses but couldn't find "himself". I think she just met him at a dance or something!
I am going to take out a sub to Scotland's people sometime soon, so that I can find some of my elusive Scots ancestors. When I do, I'll see if I can find Edward or Sydney. I just hate being beaten!
The lunatic asylum info looks promising too — good find Beth!
Good luck Ragna — do let us know if you find him, won't you.
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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #34 on: Friday 26 January 07 11:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello there  ;D

Yes a huge thank you to everyone that is trying to help me. I can not believe how far I have got in such a short time and another thank you to Carol who has found another one of my relatives (DYER dads side) who I have been looking for for two years !!! 

Elizabeth I have found The Lunatic Asylu, it  is called Fisherton Lunatic Asylum though and is actually in Salisbury, but he was buried in Devizes Cemetery but in Salisbury. (The Aslyum is called the Old Manor Hospital and is still there !!!!- was told this by Salisbury Library) But thank you so much Elizabeth for trying and taking time to look, I really do appreciate it and im so excited as I gather more information.

Rian, I did actually do that too, paid to go on Scotland and searched but found no names that matched whatsoever even taking Dates into account. Its just like he appeared on the planet !!! I have posted on the Ireland board in the hope that someone might have a McLaven in their tree. The only other thing is was he Jewish and was he originally Laven. If this is so then that Sydney Laven on the 1881 may well be him. But its all just guessing, and its finding a Edward that fitted the bill. (there is an Edward in Stratford Essex)  But if hes LAVEN and if that his him then it says he was born in Marylebone....and i cant find his birth either? Infact...this Sydney was on that one census but I can not find him again !!! AAGGHHHRRRRRRRR.

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McLaven - Camberwell
Dyer - St Pancras
Terrey - London
Stanton - Oxon
Wilkins - Weeley
Avis - London
Rasmussen/Soeter - Norway
Brent - Holsworthy Devon
Hawes - Bedfordshire
Tysoe - Bedfordshire

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Re: Mystery of Great Grandfather Mc Laven
« Reply #35 on: Friday 26 January 07 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Are these his sons?

All registered in Wandsworth Registration District, London, Surrey.  Per Ancestry.

Sydney Howard McLaven
October - December 1896

Douglas McLaven
July - September 1899

Lawrence W. McLaven
January - March 1902

Frank Ernest McLaven
July - September 1904

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