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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 29 July 16 06:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Sparrett, Jamjar & majm "JM",

Thanks for your replies.  Based on your advice I'll stick with Hobart as being the most likely resting place.

In reply to Jamjar's thoughts on preservation of a body, when Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte passed away in 1821 on the island of St. Helena then later exhumed in 1840 for reburial in Paris it was believed the high level of arsenic in his body attributed to his body's slow decay as the substance is toxic to microorganisms and slows down the decomposition of human tissue.  So, yes, it is quite possible that some form of preservation may have taken place.

Now this is where the confusing part is, viz:
According to the undertaker's record, Elizabeth passed away at Hobart on 26th December 1851 from a stroke injury (apoplexy). Her residence ,'Cottage Green', was up for sale earlier that year on January 1851 via the Hobart "Colonial Times" as a consequence of Dr Richardson's immediate departure from the colony.  Furthermore, the "Launceston Examiner" of 26th February 1851 mentions Dr Richardson as having left the colony.  A Sydney newspaper, the "Empire" of 17th March 1851 mentions a Dr Richardson as being a passenger on the ship 'Blackwell' headed for London.  Then the following year (10 months after Elizabeth's death) "The Shipping Gazette & Sydney General Trade List" of 9th October 1852 mentions the brig 'Emma' arrived from Hobart on 2nd October 1852 with a Dr Richardson, and the Sydney newspaper "Empire" of 18th November 1852 mentions the brig 'Golden Spring' on departure for Melbourne with a Dr Richardson.  One year on from Elizabeth's death, a Hobart newspaper "The Courier" of 22 Dec 1852 advertises 'Cottage Green' as still being for sale, and as "the residence of Dr Richardson who is about to leave the colony." again.

So, yes, ships did sale up and down the east coast of Australia.

And, thank you Jamjar for the information on the grave sites.

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Ron


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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #28 on: Friday 29 July 16 07:20 BST (UK) »
So, yes, ships did sale up and down the east coast of Australia.

Yes I know that ships sailed up and down the East Coast, infact my own ancestors did so.

I was referring to whether to get to the UK from Tasmania ships would go via Sydney, via Cape York Peninsula, as opposed to the WA route.

Ron, as a non-medical individual, but a student of forensic science I would argue that there were possibly various reasons for Napoleons preserved state. You were suggesting that an uninterred corpse was being shipped to her homeland, in the heat and refrigerated, for a possible 3 months. Even just from Tassie to Sydney would be unpleasant.

So, from what I am reading in the shipping notices, the good Dr left Tasmania, leaving his wife behind and the house for sale. Did she stay behind to watch over the house, or was it because they had separated?

Some of the Dr Richardson sailing up and down the East Coast, could be the Dr Richardson of Victoria.

I can't work out if this is in Tassie or Scotland, but is in the Tassie paper in Dec 1851 with a good Dr present: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i33/

Of course none of it can be proven and is only speculation.

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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 29 July 16 09:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Jamjar,
My apologies for the misunderstanding.
I don't know what navigational course was used.  It would make sense, as you suggested, to travel along the bottom of Australia for the U.K.
The dutch appeared to use the roaring forties to sail to Australia then up the Western Australian coast to trade in Java. Then sailed back to Europe on a direct course between Madagascar & Africa.
With regards to the doctor & Elizabeth's relationship, I cannot answer that.  I can only assume from the articles I have read that they were both regarded as fine members of society.
Also, interesting link you've supplied.
I've also come across another article suggesting there may have been a vet by the same name. Whether they are the same person has yet to be determined.
Thanks heaps for your assistance as I'm about to share my research findings with my extended family who have also contributed anecdotes & photos to yhe family tree album.
regards
Ron


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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 29 July 16 09:10 BST (UK) »
I do have one question, Ron, do you know where Alice Maud, wife of William the elder is interred? I just couldn't find her. I did see a notice of Probate I think it was in 1918, but no death or burial notice prior to it.

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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 29 July 16 10:18 BST (UK) »
I do have one question, Ron, do you know where Alice Maud, wife of William the elder is interred? I just couldn't find her. I did see a notice of Probate I think it was in 1918, but no death or burial notice prior to it.

Death & funeral notices (including place of burial):

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15777128
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/15788717


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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 29 July 16 11:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Merlin, I'd seen the Leura death and couldn't find it again, so thought I'd imagined it. 😀

I didn't have the burial though. She's a bit far from home.

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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 02 October 21 02:15 BST (UK) »
Hi, We are in lockdown right now BUT I am able to visit the Botany Pioneer Park and take photographs. To the person Mossy 5 my husband is related to Isaac Moss and Lydia Lucas Moss Their daughter Susannah married William Roberts. I only just found out their headstones are at Botany.

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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 20 October 21 01:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have access to a copy , what are you after

Cass

Hi Cass - would you also be able to look up one for me - Barney/ Barnabas Chaney died 16 April 1858 ?

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Megan Butel

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Re: Anyone got access to "Gravestone Inscriptions Sydney Burial Ground"?
« Reply #35 on: Friday 22 October 21 05:47 BST (UK) »
Sorry, i have looked thru the book at all the different index's and cannot find any "CHANEY"
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Cass