1841-91 Lookups please Ipswich & Southwold VINYARD, HOGG, SAVAGE

[Colin Y]

Hello all

Can some kind soul please do me any possible LOOKUPS for the family of Henry & Louisa VINYARD of Ipswich.

I have found them in the 1881 census at Orwell Court some of the family were there and some of their daughters at another married daughters home nearby. Henry was missing. He was a Bargeman sailing Grain. We suspect he was at sea. We have him working on the quay in the 1901 census.

His son Charles born 1872 married Emeline Elizabeth HOGG

We would like to know anything more about them for the remaining family in  Ipswich and area.

The Savage Family are from Orford and were Grocers.

Thanks in anticipation.

Colin

[krisesjoint]

Hi Colin....In future can u please make I request per post. Please make sure u Post as much info as possible on the person u r looking for  re family age where born etc...To log 3 names and every census there is together is really not likely to drum up much action....far too daunting a request...Different people have different resources....If I was to do all this (I couldnt because I dont have all the resourses required) it would take me all week!....Once u get into the earlier censuses they r not indexed and take hours to go through. Ipswich is Huge....You have provided no info on the Hoggs or the Savages at all so will leave that alone and will start with the  Vinyard Family....Perhaps later with more info we can move on from there

here r Henry and Louisa in the 1871 census

RG10/1755 ED 8 Folio 143 Page 17
Eagle Street
Ipswich St Margaret
Suffolk

VINYARD Henry Head 29 Mar b Ipswich Fishmonger
VINYARD Louisa Wife 26 Mar b Ipswich Fishmongers Wife
VINYARD Emma Dau 9 b Ipswich Scholar
VINYARD Caroline Dau 8 b Ipswich Scholar
VINYARD Arthur Son 6 b Ipswich Scholar
VINYARD Thomas Son 4 b Ipswich Scholar
VINYARD William Son 2 b Ipswich
VINYARD Henry Son 7 Months b Ipswich

Good Luck Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Here they r in 1891 census

RG12/1472 ED 19 Folio 96 Page 11
Eagle Tavern
63 Upper Orwell Court
Ipswich St Margaret


VINYARD Henry Head 52 Mar b Ipswich St Margaret Labourer General
VINYARD Louisa Wife 46 Mar b Ipswich Manager Pub
POTTER Emma Dau 29 Mar b Ipswich Factory Hand
VINYARD Sophia Dau 9 b Ipswich
VINYARD Eliza Dau 6 b Ipswich
VINYARD Alfred Son 16 Unm b Ipswich Skin Scraper
VINYARD Henry Son 21 b Ipswich Sailor
plus an assortment of boarders

Cheers Kris   

[krisesjoint]

Here is Thomas

RG12/1472 ED 19 Folio 101 Page 21
19 Union Street
Ipswich St Margaret
Suffolk

POTTER James Head 31 Mar b Ipswich Labourer Miller
POTTER Emma Wife 29 Mar b Ipswich Mattress Machinist
POTTER James Son 9 b Ipswich
POTTER Hebert Son 6 b Ipswich
POTTER Arthur Son 1 b Ipswich
VINYARD Louisa 15 b Ipswich
VINYARD Thomas Lodger 24 Unm b Ipswich Foundery Hand
MACFARLANE Sophia 9 b India

Well now isnt Emma a clever girl  in 2 places at the same time with 2 diff occupations as well...lol...No relationships r listed for Louisa or Sophia

Cant seem to find Charles u mention born 1872 nor brothers Arthur and William who appear in 1871 

Kris

[Colin Y]

Kriss

Brilliant, thanks.

Our surprise was that tho the rest of the family (Louisa et al) were on the 1881 Henry the father was not.

WE have him as a bargeman working for Cranfields and assumed he was at sea. Any idea what happened to the Census regn if you were away from home?

It is possible that Charles was in Southwold or Woodbridge by 1891. he married a Southwold girl who was born in Norwich called Emmeline Elizabeth Hogg.

Anything you can find of them would be greatly appreciated.

Again thanks for the discovery so far. e had no idea he was a Fisherman!

Colin

[krisesjoint]

Sorry Colin there is no sign of these Vinyard boys in the 91 census anywhere in England or Wales that I can find.  Ihave tried everything including just christian name Charles born Ipswich from 15 to 20 years of age and there is just nothing even vaguely resembling the name appearing...I had a look at 1901 and c he is Charles Vineyard 26 wife Eve 24 in Kent...I know its them cas her bro Albert 19 is with them but I just cant c hide nor hair of him in 91...perhaps dad has taught them where to hide out from the enumerators...lol....cas they just dont appear to be there....sorry....Kris

[krisesjoint]

RG12/1521 ED 16 Folio 135 Page 51
Anchor Street
Norwich Norfolk

HOGG Charles Head 44 Mar b Gt Yarmouth NorfolkBricklayer
HOGG Eliza Wife 44 Mar b Gorleston Norfolk
HOGG William Son 16 b Norwich Norfolk Scholar and Baker
HOGG Stephen Son 15 b Norwich Norfolk Errand Boy
HOGG Emmeline Dau 14 b Norwich Norfolk Domestic Servant
HOGG Daisy Dau 4 b Woolwich Kent

The brother who is with them in 1901 is not here...had a look and there is an Albert 6 residing with his sister and hubby William and Eliza Applegate Eliza is 20 if that is him...He seems to be the only Albert who is not residing with his parents for the census

Kris 

[krisesjoint]

OK checked 1881 and  thats OK they did have a daughter Eliza so that is Albert with his sister in 1891....c Emmeline only 1 here then 14 in 91 and 24 in 1901...Albert is 6 in 91 and 19 in 1901 so this family r not very consistant with age

 Charles HOGG   Head   M   Male   55   Yarmouth, Norfolk, England   Bricklayer     
 Eliza HOGG   Wife   M   Female   33   Yarmouth, Norfolk, England       
 Charles HOGG   Son   U   Male   14   Norwich, Norfolk, England   Scholar     
 Eliza HOGG   Daur   U   Female   10   Norwich, Norfolk, England   Scholar     
 Rosa HOGG   Daur   U   Female   9   Norwich, Norfolk, England   Scholar     
 William HOGG   Son   U   Male   7   Norwich, Norfolk, England   Scholar     
 Stephen HOGG   Son   U   Male   3   Norwich, Norfolk, England   Scholar     
 Emmeline HOGG   Daur   U   Female   1   Norwich, Norfolk, England       


27 Mount Street
Ipswich St Peter, Suffolk, England
RG11/1871 Folio 10 Page 14

 

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Colin Y
Are you still looking for the vinyard 's?
Regards