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Re: 1851/61 look up Smith
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 July 10 23:04 BST (UK) »
Dear Scouse,
Sorry to learn there is no connection. F E Smith [ Lord Birkenhead ] was was GG Uncle , his Father Fred was my GGG Grandfather.

Keep searching , they may be a connection somewhere

Jane

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Re: 1851/61 look up Smith
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 September 10 23:04 BST (UK) »
Dear Jane
I too am related to FE Smith though not so closely as you.  His maternal grandfather, Edwin Taylor (b 1811 in Manchester) was a brother of Charles Taylor (b 1818 in Manchester) and Charles is my g-g-grandfather.  I think that makes me a second cousin twice removed of FE.  My family has known about the connection for about 100 years.
I'm interested enough in FE to have purchased both parts of "Birkenhead by his Son" (FWF Smith).  Having read there that Bathsheba possibly had Gypsy ancestry I've been trying pretty unsuccessfully to trace her roots. IGI says that her parents were James Green and Elizabeth and that she was christened in Millgate, Wigan – but that's about it. In his later book, "F.E.: the life of F.E. Smith, First Earl of Birkenhead" FWF Smith refutes the Gypsy connection and says he had taken too much notice of his elder sister, Eleanor, with her obsession with Gypsy culture and her over-active imagination.
I'm sure you already know that, at the time of the 1841 census, Thomas Smith was a teacher living in George Street, Birkenhead and Bathsheba Green was a school mistress living about half a mile away in Brook Street.  Both roads still exist except that Brook Street used to cross Watson Street and continue along what is now Wood Close and Brook Street East.  Judging by the fact that the 1841 enumerator had probably only just turned into Brook Street from Watson Street when he reached Bathsheba's residence, Thomas and Bathsheba may have lived only a couple of hundred yards apart – and they very likely taught at the same school.
You're probably also aware of the connection of the the Smith family with the Berry's, one-time owner's of the Daily Telegraph. That too interests me and I have a contact at the paper who remembers working under the Berry's.
I would be interested in sharing with you any further information you have about the family.
Robert Cutts, [email protected].

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Re: 1851/61 look up Smith
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 November 10 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I've always been told that there is some sort of tenuous link between the Birkenhead Smith's and the Smiths on my Mum's side of the family who lived in the West Ham area of London/Essex.

I was therefore wondering if any of you had a family tree of the Smith family and their ancestors/descendants.

Thanks

Simon


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Re: 1851/61 look up Smith
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 14:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Simon.

Unfortunately i've been unable to find a connection between my Smith's and F E Smith's family.
My only advice is to contact some of the other subscribers to my post, such as Janer, or Carneisten, believe me they will be only to happy to help.
Sorry I had all the info on F E Smith's family from 1806 onwards but deleated it all.

KInd regards Scouse
Smith, Davies, Myers, Hickey, Hunt, Maxwell, Bennett, Harrison, Mitchell, Gill, Peers, Young, Jardine Scott, Patterson, Williams, Roberts, McNally, Critchley, Nicholas, LLoyd, Cowley, Hanks, Wilson, Burgess, Standen,
Liverpool. Ireland. Scotland. New Zealand.

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Re: 1851/61 look up Smith
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 March 12 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi  I am a New member
Look up for Thomas Smith.
Married Bathsheba Green.1841 St Marys Birkenhead.
Need names D.O.B. of any siblings
possible 1851/61. Census address,Church ST,Birkenhead

Thanks Alan 

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Re: 1851/61 look up Smith
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 04 March 12 19:19 GMT (UK) »
I am a new member and just noticed info on F E Smith, Lord Birkenhead. My father-in law, Alfred Smith Baker from Liverpool thought he was related to him in some way. We know of a Hannah Smith, born 1853 in Liverpool. She had two brothers, John Smith and William Smith. We wondered if descendants of these two could have a connection to F E Smith. A few of his relatives were given the name Smith as a middle name. His father was named William Smith Baker. Like you we cannot find proof but always feel there must be some truth in the story.
Perhaps my husband shares relatives with you also. I wonder if the name Hannah Smith rings a bell at all
Thanks
Wirralite

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Re: 1851/61 look up Smith
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 10 November 12 16:15 GMT (UK) »
I have a fairly comprehensive tree of the family of FE Smith and could email it as a GEDCOM to anybody whose interested.   Please contact me via the personal message system
Robert Cutts