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Re: Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 06 March 07 16:14 GMT (UK) »
The william and Elizabeth added as Jonathan's parents at the baptism in 1754 are almost 99% the next generation i am after!
After decoding most of the will i found that he had many brothers and sisters whom he mentions in the will, i have looked them up and all were born in Anstey leicester and all have the parents as William and Elizabeth. I have even found the marriages of two of his sisters, whom he names with wedded names in the will, and the father is named as william on each! Im at a dead end now as to finding this William Lewin as there are so many of them. The closest i have gotten is on the IGI i have found 

Wiliam Lewin Born about 1720, Anstey, Leicester
                      Married about 1745, Anstey, Leicester
      Spouse: Elizabeth.

Children:

William Lewin 1746-Anstey
Mary Lewin 1747- Anstey
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion

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Re: Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 06 March 07 16:20 GMT (UK) »
The william and Elizabeth added as Jonathan's parents at the baptism in 1754 are almost 99% the next generation i am after!
After decoding most of the will i found that he had many brothers and sisters whom he mentions in the will, i have looked them up and all were born in Anstey leicester and all have the parents as William and Elizabeth. I have even found the marriages of two of his sisters, whom he names with wedded names in the will, and the father is named as william on each! Im at a dead end now as to finding this William Lewin as there are so many of them. The closest i have gotten is on the IGI i have found  

Wiliam Lewin Born about 1720, Anstey, Leicester
                      Married about 1745, Anstey, Leicester
      Spouse: Elizabeth.

Children:

William 1746
Mary 1747
Elizabeth 1749
John 1752
Jonathan 1754  (my jonathan!)
Thomas 1756
Eleanor 1758
Anne 1762

All born in Anstey, Leicester. My Jonathan mentions most of these names in his will though i presume the ones not mentioned may have died. His sister Eleanor married a William Bull in 1783 and is known by that name in the will and his sister Mary married a John Ralphs in 1769 and is known by that name in the will.

The brother Thomas has a son also called Thomas though i have yet to find his birth etc.

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Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion

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Re: Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 07 March 07 06:57 GMT (UK) »
This extract from the IGI is made up by the Mormon church member and means they haven't a clue.

William Lewin Born about 1720, Anstey, Leicester
Married about 1745, Anstey, Leicester
Spouse: Elizabeth.

The other baptisms because they are giving exact dates from some source are likely to originally have come from Anstey parish registers.

Jonathan Lewin senior's will also has a Death Duty register entry (at The National Archives)
If you look at their research guides

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp

and scroll down to

Death Duty Records, From 1796

That will tell you what further information you can find out about the beneficiaries who are named in a will.

Is Jonathan's brother Thomas, the farmer at nearby Swineshead who left the other Huntingdon PCC will?

Will of Thomas Lewin, Farmer of Swineshead , Huntingdonshire 21 July 1828 PROB 11/1743

From looking at someone else's tree on the internet the suggestion is (no idea how good their research is) that this is William's marriage.

William Lewin
Elizabeth Weston 
Marriage: 4 Jul 1745 in St Nicholas Leicester

No information on William's death and nothing showing amongst PCC wills.

I would contact Leicestershire Record Office and see whether they hold a will for a William Lewin of or formerly of Anstey.
As a longer shot also ask whether they have a Thomas Lewin's will of Syston. The tree indicates that Thomas Lewin was William's father and that William was baptised in Syston, but offers no evidence for this other than the baptism you can find on the IGI which with common names like Thomas and William isn't sufficient unless there is further evidence that makes this the right baptism.

Try this website

http://freespace.virgin.net/c.crane/OldDays/OldDays.htm

and see whether he has any records to back up the links he gives. On the website he says the 1745 marriage was to Ann Weston but I think that is an error - elsewhere he states Elizabeth and gives detailed information about her.

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Valda
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Re: Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 08 March 07 19:01 GMT (UK) »
I have visited the site you added and think that this family line is indeed mine, though unsure as to whether the will you mentioned is related.
How certain would you be in my situation to buy it?? If it was related then im sure it will be valuable but if not its £3.50 down the drain! I suppose this is a small price to view something which could prove enlightening!!

Emma.
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion


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Re: Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 08 March 07 19:08 GMT (UK) »
I cant find the Death Duty Register for Jonathan Lewin snr?? Everytime i attempt to search for it it tells me there are no matches?!?

Emma.
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion

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Re: Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 08 March 07 20:49 GMT (UK) »
The online Death Duty Registers' index only goes up to 1811

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/death-duty.asp

The Death Duty registers index is at The National Archives and the Family Records Centre and the Death Duty Registers have been microfilmed up to 1858 and are found at both places. Post 1858 the large original registers are stored at Hayes and you have to give 3 days notice to view them at The National Archives.

I don't know for sure whether Thomas Lewin of Swineshead is Jonathan senior's brother and or whether his will is going to supply you with any further useful information even if he is (there is always a chance any man's will just states everything left to his wife and children - and not even names them) however

1851 census HO107 1750 folio 617
Swineshead  Huntingdonshire   
James Lewin 54 Ansty, Leicestershire,  Head Married Farmer of 400 acres employing 12 labourers
Elizabeth Lewin 48 Swineshead, Huntingdonshire, Wife Married 
John Lewin  23  Swineshead, Huntingdonshire,  Son
Joseph Lewin 17  Swineshead, Huntingdonshire,  Son   
Jonathan Lewin 15  Swineshead, Huntingdonshire, Son
Elizabeth Lewin  13  Swineshead, Huntingdonshire, Daughter
James Lewin 10 Swineshead, Huntingdonshire,  Son
Eliza Lewin 5 Swineshead, Huntingdonshire, Daughter 
plus 2 servants

IGI Church member submitted record

James Lewin 
Christening:  12 JUN 1796   Anstey, Leicester
Father:  Thomas Lewin  Family
Mother:  Elizabeth Atkins 

Thomas Lewin 
Christening:  19 AUG 1787   Anstey, Leicester
Father:  Thomas Lewin 
Mother:  Elizabeth Atkins 

There are probably other siblings but I just checked for James and a brother Thomas since Jonathan mentions his nephew Thomas.

1851 census HO107 1468 folio 846
Anstey Villa Pembridge Villas Kensington  Middlesex   
Thomas Lewin  63 Ansty, Leicestershire,  Head Married Woollen Draper
Mary Lewin 59 Dunchideock, Devon, Wife 
Mary A Lewin 20  Westr, Middlesex, Daughter 
Martha Lewin 19  Westr, Middlesex,  Daughter 
plus 1 servant

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Re: Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 08 March 07 21:02 GMT (UK) »
WOW!! i must say that it all sounds as though it is related from that information! Even without the IGI data, the census' themselves seem to add up! I like the name of the Villa where Thomas is living!

Think i may well have to obtain that will, im too intrigued now!!

Emma.
Yorkshire: Bennison, Sedman, Collinson, Taylor, Lambert, Ness
Cumberland: Carrick
Hunts, Leicstershire, Beds: Lewin, Beale, Kinton, Weston
Middlesex: Gadsdon, Matts, Stephenson, Sharp
Lincolnshire: Stephenson, Would, Blythman
Ireland: Callan,
Scotland: Bunyan/Bullion

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« Reply #25 on: Friday 04 March 16 15:37 GMT (UK) »
I think you had a post about Sedmans

I have a problem with Sedmans and maybe you can throw some light on it

I am related to an Isaac Sanderson (paternal g grandfather) who married an Ann Morley.  Ann Morley was 14 when she got married and her mother was institutionalised for much of Ann's life.

My father and some Canadian relatives thought Ann's maiden name was Sedman.  I wonder whether she was brought up in the Sedman's household because of her mother's illness.

Do you know anything about the Sedman/Morley connection.

Morley were from near Leavisham and Sanderson lived Burnsiton