Looking for Lewin family before they arrived in Hunts.

[Valda]

Did you make a note of the date of the Charles Lewin will - where he died or was living at the time of writing the will and the names mentioned in the will?
What were the details on the Brington gravestone that mentioned Charles?

Regards

Valda

[soulsister]

im going to check my photos and my nana is going ot get me a copy of the will, so ill be able to get some information from it!

Thankyou for your time! Much appreciated!

Emma.

[Valda]

Jonathan Lewin seniors' PCC will can be obtained electronically from The National Archives for £3.50

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/

There are two other PCC Lewin wills

Will of Jonathan Lewin, Gentleman of Leighton , Huntingdonshire 09 April 1814 PROB 11/1555

Will of Thomas Lewin, Farmer of Swineshead , Huntingdonshire 21 July 1828 PROB 11/1743

I did try to trace Thomas Iliffe cousin to Charles Lewin on the 1851 census. By 1851 it would appear his mother Ann was dead. William M Iliffe a farmer aged 30 and born Desborough, a widower, was with a younger son in Cranford Middlesex on the 1851 census (the family were in Desborough in 1841 in the next household to the Lewins). It looks like William iliffe and Ann were married before civil registration.

14 Oct 1836 
ILIFFE  William Morris 
ROWLEY  Ann 
Faculty Office marriage allegation (licence)

Samuel Rowley aged within 5 years of 30, not born Northamptonshire and a farmer, was in the same household as the Lewins in 1841 in Desborough. I can't see an obvious candidate for Samuel on the 1851 census in order to try and track him and find his place of birth.

1861 census RG9 960 folio 117
Brington  Huntingdonshire
Charles Lewin  41 Brington, Huntingdonshire,  Head Unmarried  Farmer of 261 acres employing 7 men and 3 boys & brick tile man. employing 7 men & 3 boys. 
Mary A Lewin  66  Bescot, Warwickshire,  Mother  Widow
plus 2 servants

Jonathan and his family were also in Brington in 1861 living one household away from Sarah Lewin the widow of Jonathan Lewin senior.

1871 census RG10 1509 folio 22
Brington  Huntingdonshire   
Charles Lewin 51 Brington, Hunts, Head Unmarried Owner and occupier of 261 acres of land employing 7 men & 5 boys, brickyard employing 5 men & 3 boys.
Mary Ann Lewin  76  Long Itchington, Warwickshire,  Mother Widow Annuitant
plus 2 servants

Jonathan and his family were also in Brington in 1871.

Mary Ann Lewin died in 1878.

Deaths Jun 1878 
LEWIN  Mary Ann  83  Thrapston  3b 127

So she had been a probable widow (since the death of Charles senior in 1829) for 49 years.

Regards

Valda

[soulsister]

I have now got the will of charles lewin from 1829 and the will of jonathan from 1847. I need the leighton will but have found some notes from it in an old folder from my visit to the huntingdon record office 10 years ago.
The William M. Illife is buried in the churchyard at Brington and was the brother of  charles' wife  Marianne. In Charles' will from 1829 he mentions his 'wifes brother' william Illiffe'. So thats one connection worked out!

Im now trying to find a connection between Roberrt Morton Lewin of Oundle and Jonathan the elder as the will was signed by this Robert and a widow, Mary Ann Lewin (Charles' Mother?), so there must be a family connection between Robertr and Jonathan, i just need to find it!

Emma.

[Valda]

Does Jonathan's 1847 will prove a connection to Jonathan Lewin junior's family and if so what is the connection?

If there is a direct connection this then brings into play the Leighton Bromswold Lewins and Jonathan Lewin's PCC will I mentioned for 1814. Jonathan Lewin who died in 1847 was a brother to Robert Morton Lewin.

Deaths Mar 1864   
LEWIN  Robert Morton    Thrapston  3b 138

LEWIN, Robert Morton   
Christening Date:27 Dec 1798    Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

1861 census RG9 959 folio 136
Titchmarsh Lane Thrapston  Northamptonshire   
Robert M Lewin 59 Leighton, Huntingdonshire,  Head Married Solicitor
Maryann Lewin  41 Islip, Northamptonshire,  Wife  Married
Maryann Brown 17 Islip, Northamptonshire, Niece
Elizabeth E Lewin   14  Brighton, Huntingdonshire, Visitor 
plus 1 servant

LEWIN, Elizabeth Emma   
Christening Date:22 Aug 1847    Brington, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Emma

Robert was in Thrapston on the 1841 and 1851 censuses. He married later in life and appears to have had no children.

Marriages Jun 1843 
LEWIN  Robert Morton     Thrapstone  15 547   
MARCH  Mary Ann     Thrapstone  15 547

Again his will might prove informative. He died after 1858. From that date all wills were proved nationally.

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/wills.htm

Robert Morton Lewin's siblings baptised Leighton Bromswold do not include a Charles Lewin which is why I haven't mentioned them until now.

LEWIN, Sophiah   
Christening Date:13 Jul 1786   Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

LEWEN, Sarah Molton   
Christening Date:23 Aug 1787    Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWEN
Mother:Sarah

LEWIN, Elizabeth   
Christening Date:26 Oct 1788   Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

LEWIN, William   
Christening Date:25 Jan 1791   Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

LEWIN, Jonathan   
Christening Date:24 Apr 1793   Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

LEWIN, William   
Christening Date:24 Apr 1793   Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

LEWIN, Jonathan   
Christening Date:14 Jan 1796   Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

LEWIN, Eliza   
Christening Date:2 Jul 1801 Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

LEWIN, William   
Christening Date:12 Jan 1804   Leighton Bromswold, Huntingdonshire
Father:Jonathan LEWIN
Mother:Sarah

Regards

Valda

[soulsister]

In the 1847 will Jonathan snr leaves everything to his son jonathan jnr!
I have now got a copy of the Leighton Bromswold will but having a bit of trouble reading the handwriting! I can gather he has a wife called Sarah and must have had a fair few things to say as the will is 5 pages long! He has 3 sons, Charles, Robert and Jonathan. So this must be Robert Morton Lewin! Im so glad ive found all thi, just ned to get it all worked out straight in my head as there are so many similar names! Jonathan the elder and jonathan jnr both had wives by the name of sarah!

The thing bugging me now is where this name 'Morton' comes from, and how the family have links with Huntingdonshire and Northamptonshire.

You have been a great source of information!!

Emma.

[Valda]

A possible

JONATHAN LEWIN 
SARAH BEAL 
Marriage:  22 MAR 1785   Brampton, Huntingdon

submitted to the IGI by a Mormon church member and not extracted directly from parish registers, so should be treated with care.

Burials Leighton Bromswold

12th July 1789
Sarahmoton

20th March 1793
Elizabeth

2nd May 1793
Jonathan

26th October 1793
William

4th March 1805
William

3rd May 1813
Jonathan aged 59

6th February 1826
Sarah aged 62

10th June 1848
Eliza aged 47

That puts Jonathan who died in 1813 potential birth year as circa 1754.

The IGI has only one possible entry (again submitted by a church member so treat with care)

Jonathan Lewin 
Christening:  10 MAR 1754   Anstey, Leicester
Father:  William Lewin 
Mother:  Elizabeth 

Because the IGI has one possible baptism that doesn't mean it is the right baptism. The IGI is an incomplete index and varies in coverage dramatically from county to county for parish registers (baptisms and marriages) up to 1812 from 3% coverage of a county like Northamptonshire to 60% for Huntingdonshire.

Regards

Valda

[soulsister]

Where should i look for the marriage of william Lewin and Elizabeth?
Would it be registered that early?

Emma.

[Valda]

At this point you cannot be sure that a baptism took place in Anstey on the date specified since it is a Mormon church member submitted record to the IGI and some of these can in fact be nothing short of made up or in some way factually inaccurate. They should always be treated with care.

You also have no evidence that it is the baptism of the Jonathan Lewin you might be interested who was baptised in Anstey (or even that this Jonathan survived childhood - you would have to check the Anstey baptism and burial registers) and moved for some reason from Leicestershire to Huntingdonshire (not adjacent counties). Anstey is north of Leicester.

There are other examples of Jonathan Lewin entries on the IGI for Leicestershire e.g.

MARY LEWIN 
Birth:  31 JUL 1793   Saint Mary, Hinckley, Leicester
Father:  JONATHAN LEWIN 
Mother:  MARY 

The IGI has 5 Jonathan Lewins baptised in Leicestershire between 1754 and 1765. - nowhere else but that might simply be because there is no coverage of other more relevant parishes on the IGI. Limited as the IGI coverage is the example shows just how many Jonathan Lewins at anyone time might be around.

Why would someone in the second half of the C18th move from the parish of Anstey to Leighton Bromswold? Was there any information in Jonathan Lewin's will that made mention of anywhere in Leicestershire that might lead you to believe there is a Leicestershire connection to your Lewins and more importantly a connection to Anstey?

To go further back still on this line without proof to make the connection to the 1754 baptism, means there is a very real chance your efforts will be concentrated on researching someone else's family tree and not your own.

Civil registration began in July 1837. Before then there were only parish registers. This website will explain what information can be found in them before 1837.

http://www.kenaud.dircon.co.uk/parish.htm

Pre 1754 all there will be will be in a marriage register will be the date and the couples names and whether the marriage was by licence or banns.

Most people research as much as they can on each generation - a generation at a time, to find out as much as they can about them. To skip generations and not research each thoroughly means you can also miss valuable clues, via siblings and families who married into the Lewins, all of which would help secure the research for the generations before them and perhaps make a connection to Leicestershire more or less likely.

Establishing whether the marriage to Sarah Beal is the correct marriage would be useful start. The full parish entry would state whether the bride and groom were of the parish or residing somewhere else. Brampton is to the east of Leighton Bromswold - so in fact even further away from Leicestershire. There is no coverage of Brampton registers on the IGI - the marriage entry was a church member submitted record.

Regards

Valda