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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 14:27 GMT (UK) »
Hello MattCardiff

Lovely to meet you.  I guess we are cousins many times removed as I'm the Great Great Great Granddaughter of George .  The names Arthur and Leonard do occur a lot within the family.  Do you have any idea who George's father was?  It's puzzled me for a long time now.
Paternal:
Mills - Cardiff
Mills - Shebbear
Smith - Ross
Smith - Llanbradach

Maternal:
Lewis - Blaenavon
Davies - Blaenavon
Davies - Dunbar

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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 14:49 GMT (UK) »
Great to meet you too - Always good to meet a new family member! :)

So what's your connection? Who of George's children are you related to?

According to our records (my mother did most of the research). George was the son of William Mills (a shoemaker born circa 1801 and his wife, Rebecca). He in turn was the son of another William Mills (born circa 1776 and married to Ann).

Yes, Arthur and Leonard do seem popular. My middle name is Leonard after my Grandfather. Hated it as a child, but quite proud of it now.

Would love to know more about your side of the family.

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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 15:09 GMT (UK) »
I have George born approx. 1855 - his mother's name as Betsy. They were from Shebbear, Devon.   Betsy married John Pierce or Pearce.  Hence I am wondering what happened to George's father.

I'm related to George's son 'Stephen Arthur Leonard George' (My GG Grandfather) born 1868 - I think he went by the name of Arthur.  He had a son Albert Clifford who was my grandad.  My father's middle name was Leonard too.  The only family member still alive is Aunty Betty (Lillian Elizabeth) who is almost 90 and is Albert Clifford's daughter.



Paternal:
Mills - Cardiff
Mills - Shebbear
Smith - Ross
Smith - Llanbradach

Maternal:
Lewis - Blaenavon
Davies - Blaenavon
Davies - Dunbar

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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 15:25 GMT (UK) »
How interesting! We had the Shebbear, Devon connection too, although we had him born a little earlier (1834ish) and his wife down as Elizabeth (Betsy???) and his mother as Rebecca (although that could also be Betsy I suppose - we don't know much about her at all, so Rebecca could even be wrong).

I'm sure we are talking about the same George - certainly the Arthur Leonard name similarities would be an odd coincidence. I'll go back and verify the information I had with my Mother, who did most of the up front research.

Unfortunately, my Grandfather (Leonard Arthur Mills) died before I was born. However, longevity is clearly in the family as his sisters (Gwen and Eileen) lived well into their 90s and his brother is still alive apparently, but we aren't in contact with him (they were close as boys, but had a falling out in later years apparently - he now lives in Dubai I think).

Leonard died from a heart condition that he picked up at sea during WW2. So there aren't really any more living relatives that we can go to. Leonard's wife (my Gran) is still alive, but we've already milked her of her Mills family knowledge. :)



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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Definitely the same George.  He lived in the North Road area of Cardiff and yes was married to Elizabeth.  I have a few addresses for him.  It's the Betsy as his mother with no father then getting a step-father that has perplexed me.

Check out this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=63869.new;topicseen#new
Paternal:
Mills - Cardiff
Mills - Shebbear
Smith - Ross
Smith - Llanbradach

Maternal:
Lewis - Blaenavon
Davies - Blaenavon
Davies - Dunbar

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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 17:08 GMT (UK) »
Interesting - Yes, I see William R G Mills (my great great grandfather - I think) was your Stephen's brother. Although I didn't know William was an Errand Boy in his early days. He ended up as a Commercial Agent living on Major Road in Cardiff.


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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 17:19 GMT (UK) »
Yes William was Stephen's older brother.  I saw that William ended up a grocer.  Stephen was the fireman on North Road ... there's a plaque on the house saying "The Fire Station".  I would love to knock the door to ask the residents how they know of the history but have never got around to it.

Major Road eh? I reckon that would have been like the other side of Wales from Llandaff/Cathays in those days.

Do you have old photographs?  There's loads I remember from a kid but I don't know who has them now.  I keep meaning to ask my Aunty but always forget about it.  I remember some of the faces in the photos but it's all very vague.
Paternal:
Mills - Cardiff
Mills - Shebbear
Smith - Ross
Smith - Llanbradach

Maternal:
Lewis - Blaenavon
Davies - Blaenavon
Davies - Dunbar

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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi
just picked up this connection, hope you are both relating to the info I gave earlier in this subject. I have info of the family .... did family history for...see earlier info, away on hols at present...
cheers cardiff
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Re: 1861/1871 census cardiff mills family
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 20:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cardiff


Yes it is hence I put the link to the other thread with all the other info you had posted.  Hope you're enjoying your hols
Paternal:
Mills - Cardiff
Mills - Shebbear
Smith - Ross
Smith - Llanbradach

Maternal:
Lewis - Blaenavon
Davies - Blaenavon
Davies - Dunbar