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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 March 07 18:12 GMT (UK) »
How did you come up with this, and  have you found anything else.  I am nervy.  Really thanks for all your help.  But now I c an't find out where the Turnballs were buried.  I notice they are back in Galt in the 1911 census. 
Johnston – Guelph
Deuchars – Scotland
Tierney – Ireland
Brubacher
Shevers – Scotland
Mitchell  - Fraser, Murray, Gauld, Metcalfe, Anderson,
Shand, Thain, Robson.

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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Have you seen your family on the 1851 Canada census?  I believe this is them, with some other children:

Canada West, Waterloo County, Galt, Enumeration District 1, Page 1
George Heriott, Labourer, born Scotland, Presbyterian, age 25
Elizabeth Heriott, born Scotland, Presbyterian, age 24
Robert H. Heriott, born Upper Canada (=Ontario), Presbyterian, age 4
Jannet B. Heriott, born Upper Canada, Presbyterian, age 1

Based on this, I would say that they must have come direct to Canada very shortly after their wedding, and that Robert may not have quite turned 4 yet.  The census was taken 11 Jan 1851, meaning that to be 4 he would have to have been born between 12 Jan 1846 and 11 Jan 1847 - impossible if he was indeed born in Canada.  However, even though the official census date was 11 Jan, in many places it took up to a year to complete the census taking, so that date should be taken with a fairly large grain of salt.   ;D  In fact, this census is sometimes referred to as the census of 1852, since it was actually taken then in some places. 

All in all, I would say you are looking at them coming to Canada in the same year as their marriage - ships didn't sail in the winter, so probably sometime before October 1848.  Possibly 1849 if this information was actually recorded in 1852. 

You can view the original census image yourself by searching for District 38, Sub-District 364 here:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1851/001005-100.02-e.html
Then click on "Associated Images" to get the PDF files.  Page 1a will show you the names.  Pages 1b, 1c, and 1d will give you more details about the family - use their line number (21) from 1a to cross-reference them on the other pages.  Page 1b actually indicates that Jannet was born in 1851. 

Canada didn't keep track of passenger lists until 1865, so you may have a hard time finding their exact arrival.  But see this thread for advice on how to search for passengers pre-1865:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,159814.0.html

Happy hunting!

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Eagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire),
Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland)

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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 14:54 GMT (UK) »
Some sites to help further you research:

Waterloo County Branch of Ontario Genealogical Society
http://www.waterlooogs.ca/

Waterloo County GenWeb site
http://www.rootsweb.com/~onwaterl/index.html

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Eagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire),
Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland)

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

Here some more marriages:

011794-84 (Waterloo Co.)
Division of Galt
John Glady
21
Residence: Galt
Place of Birth: ?nsp, Waterloo
Bachelor
Moulder
Parents: Christopher and Mary Glady
Bella Herriott
19
Residence: Galt
Place of Birth: Galt
Spinster
Parents: Geo and Elizabeth Herriott
Witnesses: George Herriott and Willie(?) Scott of Galt
Married 16 Apr 1884 at Galt
Groom: Lutheran
Bride: Presbyterian
Married by Rev'd R. G. Waddell, by License

019864-79 (Waterloo Co.) Division of Galt

Emil Roos
22
Residence: Galt
POB: Preston
Bachelor
Merchant
Parents: Charles and Elizabeth Roos
Mary Herriott
21
Residence: Galt
POB: Galt
Spinster
Parents: George and Elizabeth Herriott
Witnesses: Caron(?) Roos, Preston, and Jessie Herriott, Galt
Married 1 Sep 1879 at Galt
Both bride and Groom Presbyterian
Married by Rev'd Olvan(?) S. Dineur(??) (no idea what it says, really  :-\ )
by License

PS - Karen and I both have access to Ancestry.ca, which has digitized and indexed all of the Ontario BMD records.  They are also available on microfilm through an LDS Familiy History Centre or or your local library via inter-library loan. 

MJP


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Eagle (Yorkshire), Prior (Berkshire), Buckland (Nottinghamshire),
Short (Devon), Sinclair (Caithness, Scotland), Patterson (Co. Tyrone, Ireland)


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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Here's a couple more ( & duplicates)...we should get quite a list here!
also another couple in case they are related...
seems Mary had a TWIN! ;D  Boy the censuses should be smokin' today!

David HERIOT b. 7 May 1853, bap: 3 July 1853

Mary Skinner HERIOT, b. 20 Feb 1858, bap – 23 May 1858

Margaret HERIOT b. 20 Feb 1858, bap – 23 May 1858

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James HERIOT to James & Janet (Adamson), b. 6 Jan 1853, bapt 24 April 1853

George HERIOT to  James & Janet (Adamson), b. 27 Nov 1857, bapt  7 Feb 1858

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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 21:16 GMT (UK) »
This entry also for Williams birth...and the 1871 census, say George was a tanner
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/births.htm

Galt- ROOS Charles George
b. 4 Dec. 1880,
 father - Emil Roos, shoemaker;
mother – Mary HERRIOTT
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/Ro_Ry_Surnames.htm
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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 21:18 GMT (UK) »
This may fill in some blanks..

 Household in Galt 1881:

 George HARRIOTT  54   Scotland   Boiler Maker 
 Elizabeth HARRIOTT 52   Scotland   
 Jessie 30 Servant   
 Isabella 17 Seamstress
 Elizabeth  13  Church of Scotland 
 William   12 

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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 21:20 GMT (UK) »
WIth all this information, nothing seems to fit with what I have.  But yours looks like it could be right also.  I have
1851 census Page 1, MS5 Vol. 2.  Herriot, George 25, Elizabeth 24, Robert H. 4, Jennet B. 1.  
1861 census Harriott James 40, Jenett 41, Samuel 13, Robert 11, James 8, David 6, George 4, and John 1.
1871 census Herriot Div 3 Page 56, MS5 Vol 8:  Robert 22, Janet 20, Helen 16, Mary 13, George 10, Joanna Isabella 7, Elizabeth Muir 4, and William 1.
1881 Census Harriott Div 2 Page 64 MS5 vol 11.  George 54, Elziabeth 52, Jessie 30, Isabella 17, Elizabeth 13, and William 12.
1891 Elziabeth 58 and William 20.

We can imagine Isabella married John Glady.  
Mary married Emil Roos
Ellen married Turnball, Ellen could be Helen.  

How am I doing so far.
Johnston – Guelph
Deuchars – Scotland
Tierney – Ireland
Brubacher
Shevers – Scotland
Mitchell  - Fraser, Murray, Gauld, Metcalfe, Anderson,
Shand, Thain, Robson.

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Re: Skinners/Herriots
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 13 March 07 23:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks guys, I thought it was lost.  I couldn't find it for a while.  Just the note from the website saying they deleted everything.
Johnston – Guelph
Deuchars – Scotland
Tierney – Ireland
Brubacher
Shevers – Scotland
Mitchell  - Fraser, Murray, Gauld, Metcalfe, Anderson,
Shand, Thain, Robson.