Sheffield couple - where are they? Please help!

[Tati]

What does Rearea soilari mean MJP?

I have no idea Michelle!   

Could it be Retired Soldier? 

[mich b]

Yes (retired soldier) that seems like a possibility, but I haven't seen the text. May be MJP could have another look - please?

Hey, did anyone notice the extremely long incubation period  Arthur PINDER? His dad died in 1876 and Arthur was born in 1880? That's got to be something like the gestation period for an elephant? 

Who on earth would name a child Percy Pinder? My relatives, thats who!

Michelle 

[MJP]

Hi all,

Retired soldier is a possibililty, but it would be a bit of a stretch.  I have tried to post an image, but for some reason Rootschat is not giving me that option today.  (When I click on "Attach a photograph or image", all I get is the three check boxes about notifications and smileys - no box to enter file name of the attachment or browse button  I've had this problem on other threads, not just here.)

Anyway, if you are really dying to know, another option is to post a new request in the common room asking for someone to help decipher.  Give his name and details, and the full reference of the census page so that others can look him up and offer their suggestions. 

And here is Sophia in 1901 - I think we missed posting it earlier:

(I would assume that George and Clifford are Arthur and Emma's children, not Sophia's  )

RG13/4361/128.27
5 Canning St
Sophia Pinder, Head, Widow, 55, Grocer, Sheffield
Arthur, Son, married, 20, Silversmith, "
Emma, Daur, married, 26, Sheffield
George A, Son, 3, Sheffield
Clifford, Son, 8 months, Sheffield

(Marrying the older woman now isn't he!)

And good point about Arthur's birth date!  Never noticed that one 

BUT: if Arthur is born in 1880, where is he in 1881?  Why is Albert G called Arthur in 1881 (I double-checked - it does say Arthur)?

MJP

[Tati]

I have tried to post an image, but for some reason Rootschat is not giving me that option today.

It's because we are on a look-up request thread, I believe 

[MJP]

I have tried to post an image, but for some reason Rootschat is not giving me that option today.

It's because we are on a look-up request thread, I believe

Really??  So that you can't answer a look-up with a picture of a copyrighted image?  Wow - I never woul have thought of that.  Good to know! 

[mich b]

That's brilliant MJP,

So now Sophia is a grocer and her baby boy has married an older woman. I wonder did they really have their first baby when he was just 17 or is the first child someone else's? 

I wonder, as you found very definite birth dates for both Albert G.- 1873 and Arthur 1880, whether the enumerator misheard Albert G and Arthur and turned the two into one child?? (I'm getting inventive now )

Michelle 

I often struggle to post anything (I'm a bit of a techno-phobe) but it usually says I've got rename my file and try and do this, than give up and don't attch anything. Lol.

[Dalum]

Good evening folks,

The following are buried in grave N13 in St Michael's RC Cemetery in the Rivelin Valley in Sheffield:

26 Aug 1873 BINI Caroline 35y Cannon St
14 Aug 1870 BINI Giovanni  66y Carney St
12 Dec 1869 BINNEY Joseph 59y Cannon Street
13 Apr 1875 PINDER Elizbeth   5 mths Attercliffe
18 Jan 1889 SCOTT William 13 mths Trafalgar Street
31 Jan 1864 SMITH Catherine 68y Solly Street
19 Apr 1867 SMITH John 4y Hollis Croft

The burial database is searchable at http://sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org.

My particular interest is St Mary's, the protestant cemetery next to St Michael's. Here there is this entry:

BINI Ellen 28 Feb 1923 Tillotson Rd. 70  G326
[name/date of burial/address or place where death occurred/age/grave]

Also in G326 are people called FURNISS, FLETCHER, HENSTOCK and ANDREW (this is not a public grave).  I don't know how she might fit in with the other BINIs. There are a few other PINDERs in both cemeteries but none that seem to link to the names listed in this thread.

The Sheffield FHS transcription of the 1891 census agrees with 'retired soldier' for that lodger (I haven't seen the original).

Hugh in Sheffield

[mich b]

Oh my goodness Hugh,

I'm filling up - no kidding  . Ellen BINI was my great-great  grandma. I wondered what happened to her and my g-g-grandad Austin BINI. Giovanni BINI is his dad, Caroline his sister. I know this sounds odd, but could Joseph BINNEY be Sophia BINI? She died aged 59 in 10 Dec.1869. There seems to be a contradiction with the certificates as they all say CANNING St. I know we've looked at the maps and they're all very close together.

I don't know who the others would be. Do you know why there would be so many people in one grave? Is Ellen BINI is the protestant side then? (sorry so many questions) Family anecdotal evidence suggests that there was a "fall out" with the Catholic Faith. We're all protestant, so was Ellen and Austins son; Frederick Austin BINI.

I'd only found where Caroline and Giovanni were buried, so you've all helped knock some holes in the proverbial brick wall. Thank you all so, so much 

Michelle x

I've no idea who SCOTT, SMITH, FURNISS, FLETCHER, HENSTOCK and ANDREW are.

[Tuppie]

Hi.

This looks like the burial at Fulwood Christ Church.

17th December 1876 Albert PINDER aged 30 of Canning St.

There is also a Sophia PINDER aged 6 months buried 4th March 1877 at the same church.

Kind Regards
Tuppie