1871 Lookup please

[HiFly]

I have an 1881 reference for 2 brothers Harry b1862 and Charles b1863 said to be born in Wales as per Census 1881 - living in Higher Shepton, Shepton Montague, Somerset - Source RG11/2399 F/10 P/14

I plumted for this lookup request in Glamorganshire as I know there are a few Vallis families around and about...so am assuming that they are related somehow.

Could someone be kind enough to see if they are on the 1871 please?? (could be under Valles/Vallens/Vallace etc...)

TIA - HiFly

[Mike Thw]

Can't find Harry or Charles in 1871 Welsh census (or England come to that)

However a birth for a Charles Vallis was registed in Merthyr Tydfil, Q4 1863. Vol 11a, page 383

[HiFly]

Still trying to trace the parents of these two via Census lookups if possible:

Have since found the following references for Harry (or sometimes he is called Henry):
Census 1891 - listed as FELIS
Residence Penmark, Glamorgan, Wales
Source RG12/4405 F/79 P/18
Census 1901 - Residence Gilfach, Glamorgan, Wales
Source RG13/5022 F/116 P/21
Census 1911 - Residence 6 John St, Bargoed, Glamorganshire
Source RG14 / 32417 
Ref: RG14PN32417 RG78PN1854 RD590 SD1 ED16 SN205

[All references supplied copyright their holders].

Thanks - HiFly

[JJen]

Hi,

On the 1871 census there is the following family which could be linked to your question or totally wrong 

James Vallis, age 54, Ag Lab b. Shepton Montague
Louisa Vallis, wife, age 56 b. Bruton, Somerset
Harry Hiscox, visitor, age 9 b. Shepton Montague
Charles Hiscox, visitor, age 7 b. Newport, Wales

Living in Lower Shepton - RG10/2427/9/9

JJ

[JJen]

On the 1861 census for James and Louisa Vallis (Living in Higher Shepton) they have a Martha Hiscox, visitor, occupation servant also a Sarah Hiscox age 2. The name Hiscox is transcribed as Hixon - RG9/1151/7/8

So I do believe there is some connection with the 1871 census of Harry and Charles as per my previous post and the above household.

I hope this is of some help. 

JJ

[HiFly]

Thanks JJ

Interesting!!  Looks like I'll need to hunt those clues down.

HiFly

[armek1]

Hi Hifly,

This MIGHT be the family in the 1861 census (prior to the birth of the two boys you are looking for). Right place - right time; and the only clue that I can find in Glamorgan!

RG9/4066, F40, Page 27, Sch 111.

All surnames VALLIS but transcribed as VALLES; Canon Street, Aberdare.

John, Head, Mar, 33, Chandler, Somerset
Louisa, Wife, 35, Somerset


Oops - pressed "Post" by mistake!

Eliza, Dau, Un, 14, Somerset
Ellen, Dau, Un, 12, Somerset
Mary Ann, Dau, 10, Aberdare
William, Son, 3, Aberdare
John, Son, 1, Aberdare

2x Boarders - I'll post details if required.

Regards,
Lee.

[armek1]

Further to above, with more birth-place information:

1851 census, H.O.107/2460 F15 Schedule 47; High Street Aberdare.

All surnames VALLIS:

John, Head, Mar, 25, Chandler, Shepton Montague, Somerset
Louisa, Wife, Mar, 26, Wincanton, Somerset
Eliza, Dau, 4, Wincanton, Somerset
Ellen, Dau, 3, Wincanton, Somerset
Mary Ann, Dau, 10 months, Wincanton, Somerset

1x Lodger.

Regards,
Lee.

[HiFly]

Thanks for those Lee - all adds to the jigsaw puzzle   

HiFly