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why no McGowan's from scotland
« on: Thursday 05 April 07 01:18 BST (UK) »
 ???  Thomas McGowan born abt. 1873 at Camelon; Stirling; Scotland , lived with parents Samuel & Mary at Bothy close Camelon  [1881 census ]
He was the eldest of 8 children: Jessie ; Jane[jean] ; William ; James; Samuel ; John Arnot [our g'father ] & Margaret.
Are any relations of these people out there ?
regards Owen :'( :'( :'(
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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 August 17 17:27 BST (UK) »
I'm a McGowan from Scotland.!!! I can't really trace many though.. Grandad James McGowan died in his 30s abt:1960 in Port Glasgow of TB, his mum (??Mary/Maria/Martha) died when he was young too and as far as I know he didn't know who his father was as an uncle raised him.. My dad ask me to try finding McGowan family before he died but Im not sure I can. X

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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 August 17 17:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Melanie, Welcome to RC  ;)

The Poster hasn't been online since 2009 & has a message to say his email no longer works  :(

There are no dates/places provided for siblings i.e. do we assume they were all born Camelon?

There's no details for parents Samuel & Mary, where/when born/married?

I have McGowan connections (not direct line) but the info. I have puts them in Lanarkshire & Dumbartonshire with one I know to have immigrated to Canada.

To climb the tree you would need a copy of your g/father's death & marriage certs. to see what they say then hopefully find him on census' & his birth.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 August 17 18:07 BST (UK) »
Melanie,

I don't see a death on scotlandspeople for your g/father James aged 30 - 40 in Renfewshire but there's one aged 34 yrs who died in 1936 in Bute which looks very likely to be him?

MCGOWAN JAMES 34
1936
557/ 16
North Bute (Argyll)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 August 17 18:49 BST (UK) »
As for the first post, some inaccuracies in there.

Melanie, it would be easier if you posted your dad's information, along with what you can of your mother, but be wary, do not post anything if she is still alive. 

As for the "Port Glasgow" death, the only 1960's one showing is for a James McGowan aged 68 in 1968.

There is a 60's death, James McGowan, 1960, aged 35 in Kilmacolm, Inverclyde, Renfrewshire.

Regards

Malky

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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 August 17 22:06 BST (UK) »
Hi.. Thank u... The James McGowan in kilmacolm death is a possibility as he lived in area of PG that came under Kilmacolm at one point plus it had TB Hosp which was cause of death. Bute record I'm not sure although my Dad mentioned treatment at hospitals all over Scotland. Thanks...
McGowan.. Port Glasgow.
Daniel McGowan b:19/8/49 - 3/2/16. Married Helen Docherty 1971 @ Luton. Lived Port Glasgow.
James McGowan. b:1923.?? - 1960. Nick name "Gownie". Lived in port Glasgow with uncle ?Hugh or Michael?? Married Rose Carolan @ St.John's RC parish Port Glasgow 1942.
Mary/Martha/ McGowan unmarried mother b: abt:1904 died in her 20s in port Glasgow. Worked in the rope mill as spinner. Names I recall being mentioned... Collins, McCullough, Kelly, Scott. Sharpe.
Common family names.. Daniel. Patrick/Patricia. James. Hugh. Michael. Rose. Teresa. Mary/Maria. Ellen.

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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 August 17 00:53 BST (UK) »
Below are details of one McGowan man (James) whose family I researched when working on the new Camelon Memorial which was just erected last year.

There are a few similarities, but without knowing a bit more about the family, I'm not sure if there's any relationship with the McGowans you are seeking .....

McGOWAN, James    (78th Battalion, Canadians)

Father of Captain Samuel Wilkie McGowan, Canadian Parchute Regiment
Father of Captain William Dawson McGowan, Fort Garry Horse
Brother of Samuel McGowan, 184th Battalion, Canadians, No. 147196
Brother of William McGowan, Royal Naval Division, No, Clyde Z/4077


Canadian Attestation Record:
James McGowan, born 11th July 1892, Stirlingshire.
Attested at Winnipeg, Manitoba, 1st July 1915. 78th Overseas Battalion, Canadian Expeditionary Force, No. 147196
Age 23 years.  Height 6 feet ¼ ins. Complexion Fair, Eyes Gray, Hair Light Brown. Ambulance Driver
Presently serving 100th Grenadiers (Militia)
N.O.K: Mother, Mrs Mary McGowan, 24 Lane (Lime) Road, Falkirk

Falkirk Herald, 7th April 1917, ‘Camelon – Local Canadian Wounded’
News has reached Falkirk that Bandsman James McGowan of the Canadians, whose father, Mr. Samuel McGowan, resides at Lime Road, Falkirk, has been wounded in action. Bandsman McGowan who is a native of Camelon, left there several years ago for Canada. Soon after the outbreak of was he enlisted in the Grenadier Guards. For the past seven months he has been on active service. Before emigrating to Canada, he was employed as an engineer at Messrs. J. Ross and Co’s. Chemical works. An elder brother, Sam McGowan, is at present at the front with the Canadians.

1901 Census, Living at 26 Lime Road, Falkirk (Ancestry transcription)
Father Samuel, age 53, Chemical Labourer, born Ireland
Mother Mary McGowan age 53, born Ireland
Children William McGowan age 15, Blacksmith, born Camelon
Samuel McGowan age 16, Labourer, born Camelon
John McGowan age 13, Moulder Apprentice, born Camelon
James McGowan, age 8, Scholar, born Camelon
Margaret McGowan, age 5, all born Camelon

1911 Census, Living at 24 Lime Road, Falkirk (Image)
Father Samuel McGowan, age 63, Labourer in Oil Works, born Ireland
Mother Mary McGowan age 63 born Ireland (Married 39 years, 9 children born, 8 still living)
Children William McGowan, age 28, Engineer in Oil Works, born Falkirk
John McGowan, age 23, Brick Maker in Brick Works, born Falkirk
James McGowan, age 18, Engineer in Oil Works, born Falkirk
Margaret McGowan age 15, born Falkirk

Marriage Certificate: (Image)
At Erskine Church, Falkirk, 5th December 1919
James McGowan, Chemical Worker, age 27, residing at 24 Lime Road, Camelon
Son of Samuel McGowan, Chemical Worker and Mary McGowan nee Wilkie
Elizabeth Reid Campbell, Domestic Servant, age 21, residing at 16 Melville Street, Falkirk
Daughter of Robert Campbell, Currier (Journeyman) and Maria Campbell nee Grant.
Witnesses: Margaret Sinclair Cambell & David Muir

Sailed aboard ‘Letitia’, departing Glasgow 17th July 1925, arriving Quebec, 25th July 1925:
James McGowan, age 33, Mechanic, born Falkirk,
(Previously resident in Canada between 1912 – 1913 at 624 Riverton Avenue, Elmwood, Winnipeg, Manitoba)
Wife: Elizabeth McGowan, age 27, born Glasgow
Children: Samuel Wilkie McGowan, age 4, born Falkirk
William Dawson McGowan, age 1 year 6 months, born Bonnybridge
Destination/Intention: To join Samuel McGowan, Brother, 1610 Alexander Avenue, Waston, Winnipeg
Relative in country from which came: Mrs Jeannie Kinghorn, Maryfield Place, Camelon..

I have bits and pieces for the other 4 McGowan related men listed at the top of this message.

Co-incidentally, the 1881 Census (Ancestry transcripion) lists Samuel & Mary's first 3 children as:
Thomas, born c1873, Jessie, born c1875 and Jane, born c1880, all born Camelon.

Anne  :)

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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 August 17 01:15 BST (UK) »
Apologies Melanie,

When I scrolled back I read this wrong "died in his 30s" as died in 30s  ::)

Good work APA, looks good!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: why no McGowan's from scotland
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 August 17 07:58 BST (UK) »
I knew a family from the east end of Glasgow called McGowan from Quarryknowe Street,Parkhead.The childrens names were Maureen, Sheila, and Ronald, sorry I don't remember the parents names.
They all moved to Canada in the late fifties  (it may have been Australia) don't know for sure.
Hope this helps.The children would be around 70 -- 80 years of age now.
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