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Re: CARVER Hitchin
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 November 07 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jan,

Regret none of those variants appear in the Allen Marriage Index or Hertfordshire Burials 1800-1850 in the Hitchin area.

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Re: CARVER Hitchin
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 November 07 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking Peter :D
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: CARVER Hitchin
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am beginning to think that this Samuel Carver may be mine as I have a John and Thomas Carver who both died in London and the birth dates tie in s well as the link to Southill.  However, I would need to find a brother (Half brother) of John & Thomas called Samuel born c1756.  Is it possible that he was a son from Samuel's first marriage to Margaret?

Is anyone able to check the baptisms fot St Ippolittes for that period please?

Many thanks

Chris Carver
London - Carver Philbedge<br />Sheffield - Carver Lindley Lockey Denton Naylor Barnes Wright Fawkes Bradshaw White Allen<br />Durham - Lockey<br />Wales - Philbedge<br />Beds - Carver<br />South Africa - van der Sandt, Heydenrych<br />Somerset - House Hembery Marshall Parsons Bell Dare Neath Gray

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Re: CARVER Hitchin
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 20:35 GMT (UK) »

There were actually 11 CARVER entries in the Allen Index, the latest four being ...
23Apr1863 Gentlemans Magazine Fred.Charles CARVER of Royston to Kate DANSEY.
 

This Fred Charles Carver of Royston is one of mine, descended from the Melborne Cambs branch.  I had only guessed his marriage from FReeBMD and subsequent census returns, but of the 2 females on that page which fitted  I plumped for Catherine Cracknell.  There was no mention anywhere of a Kate Dansey, although the eldest child had a middle name of Dansey.  Would I be right to change the name to Kate on this evidence wthout getting the marriage cert?

Chris
London - Carver Philbedge<br />Sheffield - Carver Lindley Lockey Denton Naylor Barnes Wright Fawkes Bradshaw White Allen<br />Durham - Lockey<br />Wales - Philbedge<br />Beds - Carver<br />South Africa - van der Sandt, Heydenrych<br />Somerset - House Hembery Marshall Parsons Bell Dare Neath Gray


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 January 08 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris

Given the use of Dansey as a middle-name I would take this as the right marriage- but looking on the 1861 census the only match for Frederick's wife is Kate Cracknell born Ludlow ??? So what is going on? Is this one and the same person? I would say more burrowing needed :D

Jan ;)

In 1861 there is a Kate Dansey born Gloucestershire c1836 living in Westminster who could be the one Fred married in Herts. The marriage to Kate Cracknell same qtr 1863 is in St George Hanover Sq. Now I would say you have two different Fred C Carvers here  as there do appear to be two different Kates. But your Fred is definitely married to Kate Cracknell from Ludlow in 1871 and has a child with middlename Dansey born Royston  ??? ??? My head has now exploded ;D
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: CARVER Hitchin
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 January 08 11:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jan,

Perhaps it was Kate Dansey Cracknell.  As you say, more burrowing requiredbut I am away next week and may have to wait.

Chris
London - Carver Philbedge<br />Sheffield - Carver Lindley Lockey Denton Naylor Barnes Wright Fawkes Bradshaw White Allen<br />Durham - Lockey<br />Wales - Philbedge<br />Beds - Carver<br />South Africa - van der Sandt, Heydenrych<br />Somerset - House Hembery Marshall Parsons Bell Dare Neath Gray

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 17 January 08 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Chris
See my modification above - we crossed in the post :D
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: CARVER Hitchin
« Reply #16 on: Monday 28 January 08 20:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris,

I searched the St.Ippolitts PRs for the period 1750-1765 but regret no trace of a baptism for Samuel CARVER.

Regards   ...   Peter
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 31 January 08 17:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter,

Many thanks for that.  This family still seems to be my best bet, but will have to do a bit more digging elsewhere to try and prove the connection.

Chris
London - Carver Philbedge<br />Sheffield - Carver Lindley Lockey Denton Naylor Barnes Wright Fawkes Bradshaw White Allen<br />Durham - Lockey<br />Wales - Philbedge<br />Beds - Carver<br />South Africa - van der Sandt, Heydenrych<br />Somerset - House Hembery Marshall Parsons Bell Dare Neath Gray