71/61/51 Census Lookup Request - PAMPHILON

[soulsister]

Could someone please look up this family on the census' mentioned:

James Pamphilon b) 1820, Hertford
Cecilia Pamphilon (maiden name unknown) Wife b) abt 1820

children are:

sarah Anne pamphilon b) 1845 Herftord
Thomas Pamphilon b) 1850 Hertford
Augusta Annie Pamphilon b) 1852 Hertford (my gt gt gt grandmother)
Lydia Elizabeth Pamphilon b) 1853 Hertford


I know that Sarah Anne married William Holloway in 1874, Lydia Elizabeth married Charles Crouch (a widow) in 1876 and Thomas married 3 times though i dont know who or when so he may or may not be with the family on the 1871 depending when he first married!

Any help with this would be most appreciated!

Regards

Emma.

[MaryA]

Starting with the easier to identify year by the index - 1851

Bull Plain, Hertford All Saints, Hertfordshire
Thos Pamphilon Head M 61 Plumber Essex White Rosthing?
Elizth Wife M 57 Yorks Rotherham
Martha daur U 21 Herts Hertford
Susan Ellen daur U 12 Scholar " "
James son M 31 Plumber " "
Celia Son's wife M 31 Norfolk
Sarah Ann grand-dau 6 Scholar Herts Hertford
Thos Nathan Grandson 4 " " "
Lydia grand-dau 1               " "
HO107; Piece: 1711; Folio: 410; Page: 8

[MaryA]

A possible in 1841
Hammond Street, Cheshunt, Hertfordshire
James Pamplin 20 Ag Lab Y
HO107; Piece 444; Book: 12;  Folio: 31; Page: 17

The family aren't proving easy to find

[MaryA]

1861 Bull Plain, Hertford All Saints, Hertfordshire
James Pamphilon Head M 40 Plumber and Painter Herts Hertford
Celia Wife M 40 No birthplace given
Sarah A daur U 16 Dressmaker Herts Hertford
Thomas M son 14 Painter's Assistant " "
Lydia daur 11                                      " "
Augusta daur 8                                  " "
Ellen Hollingsworth Boarder 6 Scholar " "
// Next door
Thomas Pamphilon Head Widr 73 Plumber Essex White B[N]oothing?
Mary Ann daur Un 38 Dressmaker Herts Hertford
RG9; Piece: 824; Folio: 78; Page: 7

[soulsister]

BRILLIANT!!! Thankyou so much for this!!
The family you have found next door in 1861 are James's father and his sister!!!

Great, thankyou so much for this!

Emma.

[MaryA]

1871 Bull Plain, All Saints, Hertfordshire
James Pamphilon Head M 49 Plumber Hertfordshire Hertford
Cecelia Wife M 42                                    " "
Thomas son Un 23                                  " "
Augusta daur Un 17                                " "
RG10; Piece: 1373; Folio: 54; Page: 19

This name has been transcribed as Pamphilson and somebody has posted a correction to Pamphilion.

The correction has been posted by a username sueleather from Surrey England on 4/7/2007, presumably this date is americanised and should be 7th April this year.  I've sent a contact detail asking her to check this thread and make contact, fingers crossed.

[soulsister]

How exciting!! Fingers crossed indeed!!!! Thankyou so much for finding all of those!!

Would be brilliant to find someone else looking at the same Pamphilon line as myself!!

Regards

Emma

[MaryA]

I've looked at the enumeration districts in 1841, although I don't know the area it seems to me that not all of it is available, only districts 6 and 9 were noted - 6 was almost illegible and 9 said Great Amwell.

It might be a good idea if you were to post a separate look up request for an 1841 look up for the area of Bull Plain and see if anybody has a copy of the original pages, they may be able to find your family that way.

[soulsister]

I shall try that!! Thankyou!!

Emma.