71/61/51 Census Lookup Request - PAMPHILON

[petercornish]

Hi Emma,

I have established from PRs that James Pamphilon married Celia Fowle at Bengeo on 17th June 1844.  I also located the marriages of Thomas to Mary Ann Haines at Cheshunt on 20Oct1816 and James to Elizabeth Sammons at Hertford All Saints on 22Aug1852 and finally the baptism of John s/o Thomas and Elizabeth of Fore Street, Hertford a victualler on 05Apr1852.

Details of these events available if required.

Regards   ...   Peter

[soulsister]

Thankyou so much for all that information Peter! Especially great to see the maiden name of Celia!! I hadnt ever found that!!

Any further details you have of these events would be gratefully received!!

Thankyou for the time you have spent searching for them!

Regards

Emma

[petercornish]

Hi Emma,

Here we go with three weddings and a baptism  .....

James Pamphilon bach painter of Hertford  f.Thomas a plumber  and Celia Fowle servant of Bengeo f.late James Fowle,  married on 17Jun1844 at Bengeo. Witnesses  E.Willmott and Mary Kanshall

Thomas Pamphilon bach otp and Mary Ann Haines sp otp married by banns on 20Oct1816 at Cheshunt St Marys. Witnesses James Haines and Elizabeth Corn.

James Pamphilon 24 bach labourer of Hertford Heath f. John a labourer and Elizabeth Sammons 24 sp of the parish of Ware f.John labourer married on 22Aug1852 Hertford All Saints, witnesses George Sammons and James Latter (Church Official)

John Pamphilon s/o Thomas and Elizabeth a victualler of Fore Street, Hertford baptised on 05Apr1818 at Hertford All Saints.

   ...  and finally you will find Celia age 20 on the 1841 a servant in the home of George Skrimshire a farmer of Kettlestone, Norfolk.  Ref.HO107/771/13  F7 P21.

Regards   ...   Peter

[soulsister]

Thankyou so much for this Peter!!

Brilliant informtion! Best get cracking with adding to the tree now then!!

Regards

Emma.

[lundygirl]

Hi Emma - Mary contacted me to ask if I can help.  I have a book called 'Pamphilon - an Essex family' by Michael Coyne which he published himself in 1992.  He had done a lot of work on the various Pamphilon branches over the years and was sure they were all connected.  Unfortunately, I have lost contact with him.  Having had a quick look through the book, he shows a direct link from your branch via White Roothing (or Roding), Widdington and Thaxted, all in Essex, to a Geoffrey Pamphilon who was hanged in Thaxted in 1304!  You and I are linked at Edward born c1572 at Widdington who had various children, including William born c1613 (my ancestor) and Richard born c1617 (your ancestor).  I haven't had a chance to verify any of the information in Mike's book, but I can let you have the list of your direct line if you like for you to work on.  Sue

[soulsister]

Hi Sue!!

I actually have the exact same book as yourself!! My line is mentioned in oart 10 of the book! There are 2 photos in there which are my gt gt gt grandparents, THOMAS MORTON LEWIN and AUGUSTA ANNIE PAMPHILON!! I have the tree going back to the hangings at Thaxted but im trying to get the details for my main line as though i have most names its nice to try and bring them alive i think!!

Which child do you descend from??

Regards

Emma

[soulsister]

I didnt read your message properly, you have already told me who you descend from!

I am interested in following up Augustas siblings and celias line, also the generation before my James Pamphilon. I would be very interested in your line also to add to the tree! Will kindly pass you my own.

Regards

Emma.

[lundygirl]

Hi Emma - I've worked out that we are tenth cousins once removed!  A bit remote, but still related!  I'm part four and that's me at the bottom of page 51; we attach at 19 Edward - I'm via 39 William and you are 40 Richard, I think. 

I agree that it's useful to have Mike's research as a starting point, but like you I want to flesh them out a bit.  Let me know how you get on!  Sue

[soulsister]

I will definitely let you know how i get on with it and i would hope you will do the same!!

Just been looking for the section 4 p51 you say you are on. The book i have does not go upto p51 for part 4, it ends at p27! I wonder whether we have different books!!

Regards

Emma